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Morgan as GM so far

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Compared to the guys that had that job, I am impressed. Sticking to a gameplan and building up a good Dline. Not over spending when possible and mostly 3-4 year contracts. We will see what he does in the draft.  Good job so far

 

 

 

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Shocker said:

We have no idea what these guys will do if anything.  But agree they do have a plan which is nice.  Wharton was a big overspend IMO.  

If you look at their previous performances, they will make a notable difference.

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15 minutes ago, Jmac said:

Compared to the guys that had that job, I am impressed. Sticking to a gameplan and building up a good Dline. Not over spending when possible and mostly 3-4 year contracts. We will see what he does in the draft.  Good job so far

 

 

 

 

 

 

Spending money in FA is not the hard part of the job.  Managing the cap and more importantly the draft is where he should be judged and based off one year its pretty fuging ugly

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6 minutes ago, PanthersNCSU said:

I still think our entire scouting department is one of our bigger issues. Until we consistently nail a couple of drafts, the GM is getting bad advice from somewhere. Whether it's Hurney, Gettleman, Fitterer, or Morgan...I'm tired of hoping to come out of drafts with 2 guys. 

At this point I would be happy with 2 guys

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30 minutes ago, Jmac said:

If you look at their previous performances, they will make a notable difference.

If you look at previous performances, my old, fatass would make a notable difference!

Still, I like Morgan so far. No marquee players (this year), but solid guys looking to play a larger role. And building from the trenches out!!!

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Well based on last year the FA period made a lot of sense and it paid off in a big way. The draft had a lot of legitimate concerns that were brought to light as the season went along and ended up being pretty freaking bad actually. 

So thinking he at least hits on a few of these FA guys again and with the defense being so bad they will help by default, it will still really come down to drafting impact guys. This draft has a good chance to define the team going forward and saving him his job or else we'll be stuck in the mediocre tier. 

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16 minutes ago, PanthersNCSU said:

I still think our entire scouting department is one of our bigger issues. Until we consistently nail a couple of drafts, the GM is getting bad advice from somewhere. Whether it's Hurney, Gettleman, Fitterer, or Morgan...I'm tired of hoping to come out of drafts with 2 guys. 

Most teams fail at the draft, it’s largely a crapshoot. For every team that drafts as well as the Rams last year, there are 29 others struggling to find even one rosterable players. A successful draft rate over five years is around 30%, meaning that hitting on just two out of seven picks would make you one of the most best GMs in the league. 

I think fans set their expectations too high for results that are pretty unlikely.

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23 minutes ago, PanthersNCSU said:

I still think our entire scouting department is one of our bigger issues. Until we consistently nail a couple of drafts, the GM is getting bad advice from somewhere. Whether it's Hurney, Gettleman, Fitterer, or Morgan...I'm tired of hoping to come out of drafts with 2 guys. 


The league average is 2.5 starters per draft that start for at least 3 years.

We’ve been at maybe 1-1.5 the past 7 years.

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