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Chris Simms: Jalon Walker is the most overrated player in the draft

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12 hours ago, AceBoogie said:

And you know what. That works for me too. 

It won’t happen but those are two Pro Bowl players, almost guaranteed in my opinion. 
 

take the Coastal NT in the 2nd round (I think he transferred but I remember him from Coastal). 
 

We don’t need DB’s, either way. If we draft corner at any point I’m going to lose it. Corners are only as good as the front 4. 

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24 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

Trying to figure out a S/LB tweener is different than an I/OLB hybrid.  He's already done it with Luvu.  

It wasn't really that complex what he did with Luvu.  Played him as a lb on running downs and edge on passing downs.

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The question, once you agree how he might be used, (the same dilemma applies to Hunter with the CB/WR critics) is he a top 10 pick at the role you drafted him to play?  Is Jalon Walker a top 10 edge?   LB? 

For example, if Hunter was the third best CB and the third best WR, would you draft him in the top 10?  He goes #2 or 3 because he is the best WR and the Best CB in the draft.  No risk.  Walker?  He is not the second best edge in the draft.

Risky. 

Love the kid--hope it works out wherever he goes.

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7 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

The question, once you agree how he might be used, (the same dilemma applies to Hunter with the CB/WR critics) is he a top 10 pick at the role you drafted him to play?  Is Jalon Walker a top 10 edge?   LB? 

For example, if Hunter was the third best CB and the third best WR, would you draft him in the top 10?  He goes #2 or 3 because he is the best WR and the Best CB in the draft.  No risk.  Walker?  He is not the second best edge in the draft.

Risky. 

Love the kid--hope it works out wherever he goes.

Jalon is going to be a victim of his environment, unfortunately.

Fortunately, we have a couple of blueprints (Haason Reddick + Frankie Luvu) for different development paths that might work out for him.

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Just now, Icege said:

Jalon is going to be a victim of his environment, unfortunately.

Fortunately, we have a couple of blueprints (Haason Reddick + Frankie Luvu) for different development paths that might work out for him.

Unfortunately, Ice, there are some blueprints of hybrid LB/edge players who were busts too--Everette Brown is one, but he was forced into a 4-3 DE role here.  I would say that the 3-4 defense has a lot of wiggle room for hybrids at the OLB/Edge position--I am just not seeing Walker as an elite player at any one role.  Coverage?  Rushing the passer from the 9?  And at his size...

If we take him, I hope that I am wrong because there are some personalities I really would love to be on this roster.  Jihaad Campell is one.  Bech is another. 

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39 minutes ago, TANTRIC-NINJA said:

We have seen Dewayne Jarrett and other guys who cannot handle press coverage. I think we are excited about how good he would be in Madden at 6'4 running 4.4.  

Dwayne Jarrett would be T-Mac's floor if he were to fall into a coma and wake up 3 years from now and come back to play again.

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8 hours ago, MHS831 said:

But Luvu was a bargain free agent.  Would you draft him, knowing what you know now, at #8 overall?

It's a style comparison not a skill or ceiling comparison 

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the probelm with this years draft is there are no real "can't miss prospects' even hunter and carter have flaws AND the talent is not great at the top. lots of solid not great players imo 

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8 hours ago, MHS831 said:

Unfortunately, Ice, there are some blueprints of hybrid LB/edge players who were busts too--Everette Brown is one, but he was forced into a 4-3 DE role here.  I would say that the 3-4 defense has a lot of wiggle room for hybrids at the OLB/Edge position--I am just not seeing Walker as an elite player at any one role.  Coverage?  Rushing the passer from the 9?  And at his size...

If we take him, I hope that I am wrong because there are some personalities I really would love to be on this roster.  Jihaad Campell is one.  Bech is another. 

He isn't a perfect fit at any one position but the reason people are high on Walker is he might be the best football player in the draft. He'll make an impact on way or another.

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