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PFF raves about our draft. The best class in the whole draft?

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This came out 6 hours ago. I watched the draft on the PFF stream and I kept adding their comments about picks here during the draft when people were still taking everything in and getting upset about some of these picks because they weren't who most people were wanting at the time and even during the draft every pick they were saying how great it was. Now in this recap they continue their praise. The host thinks all of these picks can contribute for us immediately and our team just got much better. It's a fun watch because as a panther fan, I like all of you am not used to having such praise fall upon our Panthers. There were no buts or good player but a reach, bad value nothing. It's 100% this draft rocked for Panthers. Enjoy. 

 

 

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18 minutes ago, Panthers Rhule said:

This came out 6 hours ago. I watched the draft on the PFF stream and I kept adding their comments about picks here during the draft when people were still taking everything in and getting upset about some of these picks because they weren't who most people were wanting at the time and even during the draft every pick they were saying how great it was. Now in this recap they continue their praise. The host thinks all of these picks can contribute for us immediately and our team just got much better. It's a fun watch because as a panther fan, I like all of you am not used to having such praise fall upon our Panthers. There were no buts or good player but a reach, bad value nothing. It's 100% this draft rocked for Panthers. Enjoy. 

 

 

I think it was better than last year's.  I still wouldn't call it great.   I would say pff loved it and we took high pff guys because Eric Eager's fingerprints were all over this draft.   I think that's a good thing.

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9 minutes ago, Tr3ach said:

I think it was better than last year's.  I still wouldn't call it great.   I would say pff loved it and we took high pff guys because Eric Eager's fingerprints were all over this draft.   I think that's a good thing.

It's Panthers great

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during the draft I had concerns....after the draft and reading about our picks, I feel very good.  There was a lot of love for our draft this year, and we're not used to that.

Last year was not so much but if Legette grows, and if Brooks can get healthy and stay that way, and Sanders develops, it was a good draft.  But I just feel different this year, more confidence than ever, but it's that time of the year....every fan of every time is feeling better about who they pull for.

That said, I'm liking Morgan a lot right now.  It won't be hard for him to become our best GM ever....low bar.  But he can set it higher.

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24 minutes ago, Tr3ach said:

I think it was better than last year's.  I still wouldn't call it great.   I would say pff loved it and we took high pff guys because Eric Eager's fingerprints were all over this draft.   I think that's a good thing.

He was seated right next to Morgan, looked to be in the thick of things when picks were being made, and I even saw him dialing the number for at least one guy we were drafting. If this draft works out, we may have a new process of selecting players. Analytics like Eager's may change how scouting is done (or what is asked of scouts) in the future. Data processes the player, scouts may analyze the person.

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32 minutes ago, Captain Morgan said:

during the draft I had concerns....after the draft and reading about our picks, I feel very good.  There was a lot of love for our draft this year, and we're not used to that.

Last year was not so much but if Legette grows, and if Brooks can get healthy and stay that way, and Sanders develops, it was a good draft.  But I just feel different this year, more confidence than ever, but it's that time of the year....every fan of every time is feeling better about who they pull for.

That said, I'm liking Morgan a lot right now.  It won't be hard for him to become our best GM ever....low bar.  But he can set it higher.

I feel much better about this draft than I did after last year's draft. I'm not sure if it's because I went into this draft with a different mindset than I have in previous years or it's because read their draft guide and I could put each pick into a perspective but I don't think so. 

Every year there are always players that I really don't feel enthusiastic about. Usually is the super athletic guys that get drafted because they won the underwear Olympics but  we didn0t do that this time. Each player has performed well on the field at something that we need. 

I like that approach. Most guys won't become elite players but we don't need that. We just need player who are really good at these different things but that don't have to be the same player. When we want to rush from this side we use the player who does that well. Then on the next play we want to stop the run on this side so we play better than average level and not try to find the players who maybe can do everything we every pick. It's the the RB by committee approach but at other positions and it makes sense IF you have the depth to do it. How do you get the depth to do it? By drafting players who you are sure can do at least 1 of these things at a high level.

 

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1 hour ago, XClown1986 said:

He was seated right next to Morgan, looked to be in the thick of things when picks were being made, and I even saw him dialing the number for at least one guy we were drafting. If this draft works out, we may have a new process of selecting players. Analytics like Eager's may change how scouting is done (or what is asked of scouts) in the future. Data processes the player, scouts may analyze the person.

Yea, i honestly think he had almost as much say as Dan.  One of the main reasons I think that is Eager has said before he was ever with the Panthers, that you trade away picks for a qb and for any other position you do pick swaps, and that's exactly what we did.

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2 hours ago, Tr3ach said:

I think it was better than last year's.  I still wouldn't call it great.   I would say pff loved it and we took high pff guys because Eric Eager's fingerprints were all over this draft.   I think that's a good thing.

Strongly disliked last year's draft

I believe this new approach will field MUCH better results than what we've been getting

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Please understand that our head of analytics as of last May is the former head of analytics for PFF. There is probably going to be a lot of praise from PFF for most of our roster moves simply because we're probably using a lot of the very same analytical metrics. And PFF sure is rooting for our success because if we keep going down our flailing path it's really going to devalue PFF's analytical system.

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