JC Horn talks about receiver imposible to cover and not TMac!

[Doc LRB]

Good read and stuff under it is not bad either.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/article/panthers-cb-jaycee-horn-says-184519429.html

[BlazeCarolina]

Ocho Cinco I believe was talking about him putting folks in a blender at camp.  (we talkin about Renfrow if you didn't click it)

[Doc LRB]

Renfrow is quite a story sure hope he bounces back to that Pro Bowl form and seems like he is fighting for it.  Its all coming together.  Go Panthers!!!

[tukafan21]

Seems very possible that Thielen could end up being the odd man out of the WR rotation this year and I think we may end up trading him.

If Renfrow proves to be just as, if not more, effective as a possession WR out of the slot, then there really isn't a role for Thielen.  As he isn't at all an outside WR these days, Horn is going to be the speedster in the slot, and then we have T-Mac/XL/Coker who can all play outside or slide into the slot and likely will be rotating who lines up where all year.

If he's going to be our #6 in that sense, find a WR needy team at the end of camp and try and flip him for a MLB if possible, he's gotta be useful to a contending team who needs a steady presence and sure hands in the slot (Buffalo?).

I'd love to have him around to mentor T-Mac/XL/Coker, but there's also no reason that can't be Renfrow either and we badly need a MLB or even another CB, much more than we need a 6th WR.

Edited August 2 by tukafan21

[NAS]

2 hours ago, tukafan21 said:

Seems very possible that Thielen could end up being the odd man out of the WR rotation this year and I think we may end up trading him.

If Renfrow proves to be just as, if not more, effective as a possession WR out of the slot, then there really isn't a role for Thielen.  As he isn't at all an outside WR these days, Horn is going to be the speedster in the slot, and then we have T-Mac/XL/Coker who can all play outside or slide into the slot and likely will be rotating who lines up where all year.

If he's going to be our #6 in that sense, find a WR needy team at the end of camp and try and flip him for a MLB if possible, he's gotta be useful to a contending team who needs a steady presence and sure hands in the slot (Buffalo?).

I'd love to have him around to mentor T-Mac/XL/Coker, but there's also no reason that can't be Renfrow either and we badly need a MLB or even another CB, much more than we need a 6th WR.

I don't think so, we need them both.  I think Thielen is just fine being part of the rotation and not having to carry the load at his age.  Why do folks suddenly think we have luxury to trade away our best players, especially one that has tremendous chemistry with our quarterback.   Stop the nonsense

[kungfoodude]

4 minutes ago, NAS said:

I don't think so, we need them both.  I think Thielen is just fine being part of the rotation and not having to carry the load at his age.  Why do folks suddenly think we have luxury to trade away our best players, especially one that has tremendous chemistry with our quarterback.   Stop the nonsense

Not to mention that our younger players have yet to proven to be anywhere near the level of "proven." 

I don't think we have the luxury to be getting rid of effective players.

[frankw]

At this point I'll just be glad and relieved to see the young guys take over regardless. Nothing against Renfro or Thielen they seem like great guys but the back and forth between these two is just tiring.

[Pejorative Miscreant]

It’s a refreshing problem to have imo. I think guys like Theilen and Renfro can push these younger guys a bit which helps in their growth. Competition not limited to just Sunday afternoon.  

[theinstrumental]

Thielen’s 34 years old and has topped 1,000 yards once since 2018. It’s time to stop treating him like a load-bearing player. If Renfrow can replace him in the slot, we need to trust T-Mac to become the outside player we drafted him to be and see if we can get anything for Thielen. 

[Chief Keek]

Nice, hopefully Renfrow can bounce back this season. 

[L-TownCat]

I understand the sentiment some of you have for trading AT, but I don’t think the team shares your views.  He’s literally Bryce’s security blanket.  The chemistry between the two is evident and well documented.  The last thing the staff would want is to remove the most comfortable target Bryce has.

Its not a bad idea to try and snag a mid-late round pick for Adam, it’s just not worth the risk of setting Bryce back in his already slow development.

[Camp Fodder]

7 minutes ago, L-TownCat said:

I understand the sentiment some of you have for trading AT, but I don’t think the team shares your views.  He’s literally Bryce’s security blanket.  The chemistry between the two is evident and well documented.  The last thing the staff would want is to remove the most comfortable target Bryce has.

Its not a bad idea to try and snag a mid-late round pick for Adam, it’s just not worth the risk of setting Bryce back in his already slow development.

This and people saying trade Thielen are people thinking too highly of Coker and XL. Outside of a catch or two what has Coker done in actual games?

[L-TownCat]

26 minutes ago, Camp Fodder said:

This and people saying trade Thielen are people thinking too highly of Coker and XL. Outside of a catch or two what has Coker done in actual games?

For a UDFA, he matched the production of our 1st round pick on less targets.  Agreed, that’s not saying much but in that context it says a lot.

[theinstrumental]

1 hour ago, Camp Fodder said:

This and people saying trade Thielen are people thinking too highly of Coker and XL. Outside of a catch or two what has Coker done in actual games?

Coker had ~80% of Thielen’s yardage last year. As a UFA, not the first option.

 

It feels like everyone’s anchoring on that outlier stretch Thielen had two years ago. He hasn’t been in that form since. He should comfortably be behind T-Mac this year, and not such a big focus that it’s worth taking the reps from XL and Coker. And if Renfrow can give us the same vet presence, but is five years younger? Pretty easy to see how AT gets crowded out.