Tonight's Game

[Seltzer]

18 minutes ago, Basbear said:

 

Its pres-season and all, just that was most of the panthers 1st teamers vs browns 2nd/3rd/rookies.

Browns look better even with 2s and 3s. That was a 3 win team and they just looked better prepared, faster, and stronger. I know there's no game-planning. I also know there's Dave&evero didn't call plays.

 

Brother its just been too long with the losing, that's the problem. Pres-season memes or not. 

Everyone, including Cleveland media, said the Panthers won the joint practice and it wasnt close.

That practice was starters vs starters, and we won. Does that mean nothing? This was a padded practice, 11 on 11. As close to game conditions as you're going to get in preseason, outside of the very limited reps you might get in a 1-on-1 situation.

As far as the gamr, our 3rd string RG (playing bc both Hunt & Zavala are out) gave up a sack the 1st series. That was against mostly 2s for the Cleveland defense.  However, the next series Bryce dotted them up all the way down the field.

Shedeur threw a beautiful ball (on a short field) against our 2s. Nothing against the ones in the 2 series they were out there.

Getting upset )or pumped for that matter) by what 3rd stringers are doing seems pointless to me.

There will be a few of these guys that will be on rosters, but most will be gone in 3 weeks.

Because of that, there's really not much to gather from a preseason game other then the very limited reps the 1 & 2s get. 

I am concerned about the playcalling/schem of Evero in general & the fact that Dalton suddenly looks like he's washed, bc it happened that fast with Derek Anderson.

But in general, I genuinely am very happy about what I saw from the guys we will depend on this year.

Our top rookies (T-Mac, Scourton, & Umanmielen) all looked good.

Corey Thornton was a hell of a find.

BY9 looked like did down the stretch last year.

Bobby Brown was collapsing pockets- can't watch him play with Derrick Brown.

They need to find a way for Jalen Coker to get on the field.

I understand the generalized pessism given the last 7 years- I really do.

And I dont blame anyone who wants to wait until we prove it on the field in the regular season, but I genuinely think this team is going to be much more like the offense to end last year, and I think the defense, especially the Dline, is significantly better.

I think out starting 11 on defense is formidable, although defensive depth is still a major question mark. And I dont know where we will legitimately be able to upgrade in any significant way- have to hope for good health there.

Anyway, I understand your take, I just don't agree with it. But I'll admit I've been wrong before. We'll see this season.

[frankw]

1 hour ago, Jackie Lee said:

Gonna see if this free replay works, missed the game

https://gamesontvtoday.com/sports-games-on-tv-today-sunday-august-18-2024

Other than one offensive drive you didn't miss much.

[CRA]

49 minutes ago, Seltzer said:

Everyone, including Cleveland media, said the Panthers won the joint practice and it wasnt close

Everyone said BY was playing like a 7 year vet at joint practices before he then had one the worst rookie seasons of all time. 

I think ever since year 2 of Matt Rhule…Carolina and everyone here has overstated and over played joint practices.  I feel it gets way more talk and emphasis now than back in the day.  

Because the talk of joint practice has never seemed to track beyond that the last several years.  I also think the reporting is different now about Carolina.  I think Carolina controls it more than in past eras. 

[Basbear]

50 minutes ago, Seltzer said:

Everyone, including Cleveland media, said the Panthers won the joint practice and it wasnt close.

That practice was starters vs starters, and we won. Does that mean nothing? This was a padded practice, 11 on 11. As close to game conditions as you're going to get in preseason, outside of the very limited reps you might get in a 1-on-1 situation.

As far as the gamr, our 3rd string RG (playing bc both Hunt & Zavala are out) gave up a sack the 1st series. That was against mostly 2s for the Cleveland defense.  However, the next series Bryce dotted them up all the way down the field.

Shedeur threw a beautiful ball (on a short field) against our 2s. Nothing against the ones in the 2 series they were out there.

Getting upset )or pumped for that matter) by what 3rd stringers are doing seems pointless to me.

There will be a few of these guys that will be on rosters, but most will be gone in 3 weeks.

Because of that, there's really not much to gather from a preseason game other then the very limited reps the 1 & 2s get. 

I am concerned about the playcalling/schem of Evero in general & the fact that Dalton suddenly looks like he's washed, bc it happened that fast with Derek Anderson.

But in general, I genuinely am very happy about what I saw from the guys we will depend on this year.

Our top rookies (T-Mac, Scourton, & Umanmielen) all looked good.

Corey Thornton was a hell of a find.

BY9 looked like did down the stretch last year.

Bobby Brown was collapsing pockets- can't watch him play with Derrick Brown.

They need to find a way for Jalen Coker to get on the field.

I understand the generalized pessism given the last 7 years- I really do.

And I dont blame anyone who wants to wait until we prove it on the field in the regular season, but I genuinely think this team is going to be much more like the offense to end last year, and I think the defense, especially the Dline, is significantly better.

I think out starting 11 on defense is formidable, although defensive depth is still a major question mark. And I dont know where we will legitimately be able to upgrade in any significant way- have to hope for good health there.

Anyway, I understand your take, I just don't agree with it. But I'll admit I've been wrong before. We'll see this season.

 

Great post. 

[Mr. Scot]

On 8/10/2025 at 4:35 PM, LinvilleGorge said:

Okay. All I'm saying is that we consistently look incompetent on the field so don't be the least but surprised if that continues into the regular season. Maybe we break that trend this year but... I wouldn't bet a dime on it.

A big part of it for me is the improvement of Young. He's miles ahead of where he used to be.

Canales? I like him, but my judgment on how good a coach he can be is still pending.

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

A big part of it for me is the improvement of Young. He's miles ahead of where he used to be.

I hope so. I still need to see more from him in games that actually matter. So far we've basically seen him look good in games that don't matter. Regular season games when we're out of contention and a preseason game. I'll start to become a true believer when I see him play well in regular season games that matter.

[ClawOn]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I hope so. I still need to see more from him in games that actually matter. So far we've basically seen him look good in games that don't matter. Regular season games when we're out of contention and a preseason game. I'll start to become a true believer when I see him play well in regular season games that matter.

Agreed.  300 and 2 or 3 total in Jacksonville in a winning effort would sure be a nice start.

[WhoKnows]

On 8/10/2025 at 6:26 PM, CRA said:

Everyone said BY was playing like a 7 year vet at joint practices before he then had one the worst rookie seasons of all time. 

I think ever since year 2 of Matt Rhule…Carolina and everyone here has overstated and over played joint practices.  I feel it gets way more talk and emphasis now than back in the day.  

Because the talk of joint practice has never seemed to track beyond that the last several years.  I also think the reporting is different now about Carolina.  I think Carolina controls it more than in past eras. 

I seem to remember we were told to not worry about the Jets dismantling us in preseason with Reich because we did so well at joint practice and that’s what really mattered and we were holding back since our first two games were division games. Until proven otherwise, I’m happy football’s back but I’ve go low expectations. Definitely feel better than last year but we have no margin for error.

[Mr. Scot]

20 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I hope so. I still need to see more from him in games that actually matter. So far we've basically seen him look good in games that don't matter. Regular season games when we're out of contention and a preseason game. I'll start to become a true believer when I see him play well in regular season games that matter.

To be fair, the "games that matter" train has left our station pretty early for the last few years

[LinvilleGorge]

6 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

To be fair, the "games that matter" train has left our station pretty early for the last few years

Bingo. That's why it's critical IMO for Bryce to look good out of the gate this season.

[MechaZain]

Idk why y'all do this to yourselves. Preseason games are about as indicative as a day of training camp, maybe less considering both sides are just throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks