Panthers possibly trading Thielen?

[TheSpecialJuan]

By adding an extra pick via trade this morning, the Vikings now have added ammunition to go trade for a wide receiver. They have inquired on former Vikings WR Adam Thielen, but Carolina has been reluctant to deal the respected and productive veteran.
https://x.com/adamschefter/status/1959625205824827843?s=46&t=xeIgh_-Vr2aKxBkBJdfnKA

[tukafan21]

Better not do it for a 5th, and I'm even on the fence about doing it for a 4th.

I think we should trade Thielen since this is his last year here anyways and we have such a deep WR room right now, but I'd rather trade him for a LB or DB.

If we can't get one of those, I think I'd want a 3rd.  Once you get into the 4th, the value on the back end probably doesn't outweigh having him around this year for the young guys to learn from.

[Byrdman4real]

26 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

By adding an extra pick via trade this morning, the Vikings now have added ammunition to go trade for a wide receiver. They have inquired on former Vikings WR Adam Thielen, but Carolina has been reluctant to deal the respected and productive veteran.
https://x.com/adamschefter/status/1959625205824827843?s=46&t=xeIgh_-Vr2aKxBkBJdfnKA

Question is did the Vikings free up enough money to inquire Thielen?

Edited 3 hours ago by Byrdman4real

[LinvilleGorge]

4th I'm all in. 5th? Meh, I can take it or leave it. 3rd? I doubt that's even being considered by the Vikings, that would be highway robbery for a 35 year old possession receiver.

[carpanfan96]

24 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

Better not do it for a 5th, and I'm even on the fence about doing it for a 4th.

I think we should trade Thielen since this is his last year here anyways and we have such a deep WR room right now, but I'd rather trade him for a LB or DB.

If we can't get one of those, I think I'd want a 3rd.  Once you get into the 4th, the value on the back end probably doesn't outweigh having him around this year for the young guys to learn from.

Superstar receivers are only going for 3rds. I mean Pickens went for a 3rd, 5th and 6th. 

DK went for a 2nd, 6th and 7th. 

Adams was a third... Etc. 

 

Just cause Carolina fleeced Dallas and Baltimore for crappy WR doesn't mean AT is worth a 3rd all of a sudden. lol

[carpanfan96]

3 minutes ago, Byrdman4real said:

Question is did the Vikings free up enough money to inquire Thielen?

Yea they did. They have quite a bit of space now. 

[Byrdman4real]

1 minute ago, carpanfan96 said:

Yea they did. They have quite a bit of space now. 

The trade might go down today or tomorrow then, if it happens.

[TheSpecialJuan]

https://x.com/danorlovsky7/status/1959626900113957360?s=46&t=xeIgh_-Vr2aKxBkBJdfnKA
 

Would hate for Bryce to lose Adam.

[tukafan21]

1 hour ago, carpanfan96 said:

Superstar receivers are only going for 3rds. I mean Pickens went for a 3rd, 5th and 6th. 

DK went for a 2nd, 6th and 7th. 

Adams was a third... Etc. 

 

Just cause Carolina fleeced Dallas and Baltimore for crappy WR doesn't mean AT is worth a 3rd all of a sudden. lol

Totally different situations, those teams were ready to move on from those players and were shopping them.

We aren't looking to trade Thielen, the Vikings are in serious need for a WR who can play a meaningful role Week 1 and have a significant connection with Thielen of course.

Honestly, if the Vikings were to announce to the league that they are trading their 3rd rounder for the best WR offered to them, how many better players than Thielen would they get offered?  

It's not like teams are usually trying to trade away startable WRs at this time of the year.  We just happen to also be in a unique situation where yea, Thielen is our starting slot WR, but Renfrow might just be more effective this year anyways and the hope is that either of them are our 4th best WR this year as well.

Thielen is the leader of our very young WR room, I'm not trying to trade that away for a fair value trade, you need to make it worth it to us, and a 4th rounder next year really isn't a ton of value, it's hopefully a backup player in 26 who might be able to carve out a role in 27.

I'm not saying he's worth a 3rd, I'm just saying that unless it's that high, I don't see the value in trading him for a draft pick.  But a LB or DB that will play meaningful snaps this year is still my preference, if we're giving up a player who will play meaningful snaps for them on offense, give us one on defense for him.

Edited 2 hours ago by tukafan21

[CRA]

I mean, Carolina in their negotiations should have had the Vikings put Howell in their deal.  Give AT, get the 4th and Howell…..then negotiate eating cap or a pick swap if needed. 

[kungfoodude]

2 hours ago, carpanfan96 said:

Superstar receivers are only going for 3rds. I mean Pickens went for a 3rd, 5th and 6th. 

DK went for a 2nd, 6th and 7th. 

Adams was a third... Etc. 

 

Just cause Carolina fleeced Dallas and Baltimore for crappy WR doesn't mean AT is worth a 3rd all of a sudden. lol

He isn't worth a 3rd, more like a 6th or 7th. 

That isn't the point though. We would be trading our best WR for a 4th? A 4th that is likely to be a special teams/PS player or out of the league in a couple of seasons.