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Thielen traded

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Just now, ForJimmy said:

I believe he wanted to play here because it was so close to home. If he plays I would think it would be here to keep it easy in his family. 

Well that's my point, if he couldn't make the initial 53 here, he probably knows that if he signs with us, it's as a locker room mentor and he probably won't play much, if not even just being inactive on game days.

If other teams are offering him a chance at real playing time, it's then which does he prefer, to be closer to his family or to actually get to play again.

I can see why he'd need to talk it over with them

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2 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

AT also came back to play with Bryce.   You can't believe a goddamn word out of these guys mouths 

lol I’m just going by what he stated when he was trying out for our team. He was driving to practice from his house. It’s really not worth arguing over though. 

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6 hours ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

This is pretty brutal for Bryce Young. Thielen was the one receiver he had actual chemistry with and trust in. Getting into empty looks and giving Thielen two-way goes was how the Panthers sparked Bryce's turnaround
https://x.com/ollieconnolly/status/1960706467457057064?s=46&t=xeIgh_-Vr2aKxBkBJdfnKA

I thought he started to develop good chemistry with Coker over the last half of the season.  

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1 hour ago, Davidson Deac II said:

In fairness, AT missed several games last season.  And so did Bryce.  One would have to look specifically at games both of them played in to be accurate.  

Just looking at the last two games, XL had 14 targets, Thielen 12 and Coker 9, so at least for the last two games, your assessment appears to be correct.  

Very fair point re: when all 3 were playing at the same time.

Quick count of weeks 1, 2, 12 - 15, 17, and 18 (AT out 4 - 10, XL out 14, Bryce out three as well (3, 4, 6), week 11 was a bye) actually came out to AT 51, XL 46 over that period. AT was definitely Bryce's most reliable WR, but it wasn't like the ball was being forced to Thielen at the expense of XL's development. 

EDIT: Got curious about Coker and the only game that AT + XL + Coker were on the field together were vs. DAL, @TB, and @ATL. Targets for those three games totaled out to for 19 for AT, 17 for XL, 15 for Coker.

Those AT numbers are going to likely go predominantly to TMac 🙏

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2 hours ago, Icege said:

Very fair point re: when all 3 were playing at the same time.

Quick count of weeks 1, 2, 12 - 15, 17, and 18 (AT out 4 - 10, XL out 14, Bryce out three as well (3, 4, 6), week 11 was a bye) actually came out to AT 51, XL 46 over that period. AT was definitely Bryce's most reliable WR, but it wasn't like the ball was being forced to Thielen at the expense of XL's development. 

EDIT: Got curious about Coker and the only game that AT + XL + Coker were on the field together were vs. DAL, @TB, and @ATL. Targets for those three games totaled out to for 19 for AT, 17 for XL, 15 for Coker.

Those AT numbers are going to likely go predominantly to TMac 🙏

Agreed, although I do think some will go to Coker, at least at first. Hopefully, they can work Sanders in as well.  

One of the the things I liked about the last few games of last season is that I thought that Young and the offense did a pretty good job of spreading the ball amongst the receivers.  Against Atlanta for example, there was no true number one target.  We had 7 guys with 3 or more catches, and that is when an offense works best imo.  

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7 hours ago, Icege said:

XL led the team in targets by 20+ last season.

While AT was the more reliable (and productive) WR last season, he really wasn't force fed like some of the Bryce haters want to believe.

I mean, he did miss 7 games.....and still almost lead the Panthers in every statistical production category. 

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