Canales needs to concentrate on coaching

[Jackie Lee]

1 hour ago, fanpanther said:

Canalas may be an amazing coach no one can tell with him forced to play the byoung qb card.  He has to only call plays bryce can maybe throw so its probanly like 10%of his plays

He literally took the job knowing his main goal was to fix Bryce as a certified QB whisperer lol. That is the only reason he was hired 

[carpanfan96]

4 hours ago, Jackie Lee said:

He literally took the job knowing his main goal was to fix Bryce as a certified QB whisperer lol. That is the only reason he was hired 

Fixing Bryce doesn't seem possible and Tepper I think has figured that out "the allowed benching last year for one example"

[Waldo]

Nothing indicates DC has HC talent. He has zero positive input on the D. It's year 2 and he chose to lean on a guy in year three that had a year 2 thst would keep many coaches from being a coordinator again. For an offensive guy he did squat at QB and now will have to ride his sad choices outside of the #1. Even his OC skills are basic which Im not sure he can hand off to someone else either because with his skills he is just a guy with a headset on the sidelines at that point. He is like a head cheerleader more than anything without his playcalling duties. 

Edited 10 hours ago by Waldo

[frankw]

I had to go and look up who our QB coach is and it's just some random jabroni.

https://www.panthers.com/team/coaches-roster/will-harriger

Meanwhile we threw $8 million at Andy Dalton just to be a friend to Bryce Young and Bryce once again opened the season looking like a bottom 3 QB at best.

Just clownery all around.

[fanpanther]

9 hours ago, Jackie Lee said:

He literally took the job knowing his main goal was to fix Bryce as a certified QB whisperer lol. That is the only reason he was hired 

He totally underestimated how limited bryces physical abilities are.  Not saying he is a great coach just saying no coach on the planet succeeds in the nfl with bryce young at qb.  

[frankw]

15 minutes ago, fanpanther said:

He totally underestimated how limited bryces physical abilities are.  Not saying he is a great coach just saying no coach on the planet succeeds in the nfl with bryce young at qb.  

Well let's be realistic here. He could have taken one look at Bryce Young on tape and known what he was getting. As JackieLee stated his work with QB's like Geno Smith and Baker Mayfield is a big contributing factor in why he was hired. At the same time we also have to recognize other factors. Seemingly and realistically he was the only one seriously considering the job. And as far as "fixing" Bryce Young goes one entire staff has already gotten the axe over him. Frank Reich was vilified as possibly the worst head coaching hire ever. 2 years later the more we see of Bryce the more it looks like he was the problem. Right now we are at a true crossroads. We cannot just play out the season with Young and be a serious franchise. We have to try and see what we have in the young roster and firmly get some sort of look at Canales offense. At this point Dave Canales needs to earn the right to draft his own QB. So far he has developed bupkis at the most important position. And he and Dan Morgan made the decision to not give Bryce Young one iota of competition for the third year in a row. He cannot claim the cupboards are bare beyond his control.

[raleigh-panther]

DC, aka Mr Rogers, needs to try this

 

 

[PleaseCutStewart]

I think more than a DC, we need to get an experienced OC so Dave can stop worrying about calling plays and actually be paying attention to the game.

Norvell tried to do the same crap at FSU. Finally got an experienced OC and let him focus on the coaching part of the game and FSU looks miles better this year than last

[Waldo]

3 minutes ago, PleaseCutStewart said:

I think more than a DC, we need to get an experienced OC so Dave can stop worrying about calling plays and actually be paying attention to the game.

Norvell tried to do the same crap at FSU. Finally got an experienced OC and let him focus on the coaching part of the game and FSU looks miles better this year than last

That should have been this year. Tough to sell to anyone worth getting when this crew is going into year 3 on the hot seat. I still think keeping Evero will sink them all after last year's showing. If/when he is scapegoated they need to show improvement or it's likely to be so eone else's problem next year. I do agree in principle tho, it all should have happened after last year's problems. 

[Panthering]

I think he should keep it tbh and try to improve at it all. We hired him to be the f'ing playcaller and head coach, so deal with the bumps of someone learning on the job with a limited QB. It's fine. 

[fanpanther]

7 hours ago, frankw said:

Well let's be realistic here. He could have taken one look at Bryce Young on tape and known what he was getting. As JackieLee stated his work with QB's like Geno Smith and Baker Mayfield is a big contributing factor in why he was hired. At the same time we also have to recognize other factors. Seemingly and realistically he was the only one seriously considering the job. And as far as "fixing" Bryce Young goes one entire staff has already gotten the axe over him. Frank Reich was vilified as possibly the worst head coaching hire ever. 2 years later the more we see of Bryce the more it looks like he was the problem. Right now we are at a true crossroads. We cannot just play out the season with Young and be a serious franchise. We have to try and see what we have in the young roster and firmly get some sort of look at Canales offense. At this point Dave Canales needs to earn the right to draft his own QB. So far he has developed bupkis at the most important position. And he and Dan Morgan made the decision to not give Bryce Young one iota of competition for the third year in a row. He cannot claim the cupboards are bare beyond his control.

I agree he needs the chance to draft his own QB, and its really sad whoever made the decision to have 0 competition for young its just a terrible decision.  Not even a developmental qb in the later rounds......sanders.....sanders....

[HaricotVert]

When my wife know whether or not we are going to run or pass based on the down and distance that is then confirmed by the formation and can make blitz calls pre-snap the gameday calls are a major problem.

And dont get me wrong, she is a smart lady, but she 'aint a NFL coordinator

[CRA]

really makes you go back and rethink the preseason and that talk.  We know for the second year in a row Dave worked his young and not very good starters very light.....they looked awful in preseason and it carried through to week 1.  2 years in a row.  

this year, Dave was really big on everyone that isn't the OC playcaller and DC playcaller needed work in the preseason......more than the actual playcallers.  

that's not a good look at for the HC.  Really looks like the HC isn't up for this rodeo. 

every moaning about Corbett's snaps.  Every snap is going down as the 1 second hits the 0 mark.  That's not bad snapping.  That's a C desperately trying to avoid penalties (and narrowly avoiding it almost every down often to the millisecond) for the offense because the O isn't running right.  I think folks should re-evaluate the Corbett bashing a little. 

[mc52beast]

Canales needs to grow a set. Don’t just push for your DC to play young guys, MAKE YOUR DC play young guys. WTH kind of coach kindly asks and then sits back while the coordinator refuses.