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Canales needs to concentrate on coaching


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1 hour ago, fanpanther said:

Canalas may be an amazing coach no one can tell with him forced to play the byoung qb card.  He has to only call plays bryce can maybe throw so its probanly like 10%of his plays

He literally took the job knowing his main goal was to fix Bryce as a certified QB whisperer lol. That is the only reason he was hired 

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4 hours ago, Jackie Lee said:

He literally took the job knowing his main goal was to fix Bryce as a certified QB whisperer lol. That is the only reason he was hired 

Fixing Bryce doesn't seem possible and Tepper I think has figured that out "the allowed benching last year for one example"

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Nothing indicates DC has HC talent. He has zero positive input on the D. It's year 2 and he chose to lean on a guy in year three that had a year 2 thst would keep many coaches from being a coordinator again. For an offensive guy he did squat at QB and now will have to ride his sad choices outside of the #1. Even his OC skills are basic which Im not sure he can hand off to someone else either because with his skills he is just a guy with a headset on the sidelines at that point. He is like a head cheerleader more than anything without his playcalling duties. 

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9 hours ago, Jackie Lee said:

He literally took the job knowing his main goal was to fix Bryce as a certified QB whisperer lol. That is the only reason he was hired 

He totally underestimated how limited bryces physical abilities are.  Not saying he is a great coach just saying no coach on the planet succeeds in the nfl with bryce young at qb.  

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15 minutes ago, fanpanther said:

He totally underestimated how limited bryces physical abilities are.  Not saying he is a great coach just saying no coach on the planet succeeds in the nfl with bryce young at qb.  

Well let's be realistic here. He could have taken one look at Bryce Young on tape and known what he was getting. As JackieLee stated his work with QB's like Geno Smith and Baker Mayfield is a big contributing factor in why he was hired. At the same time we also have to recognize other factors. Seemingly and realistically he was the only one seriously considering the job. And as far as "fixing" Bryce Young goes one entire staff has already gotten the axe over him. Frank Reich was vilified as possibly the worst head coaching hire ever. 2 years later the more we see of Bryce the more it looks like he was the problem. Right now we are at a true crossroads. We cannot just play out the season with Young and be a serious franchise. We have to try and see what we have in the young roster and firmly get some sort of look at Canales offense. At this point Dave Canales needs to earn the right to draft his own QB. So far he has developed bupkis at the most important position. And he and Dan Morgan made the decision to not give Bryce Young one iota of competition for the third year in a row. He cannot claim the cupboards are bare beyond his control.

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I think more than a DC, we need to get an experienced OC so Dave can stop worrying about calling plays and actually be paying attention to the game.

Norvell tried to do the same crap at FSU. Finally got an experienced OC and let him focus on the coaching part of the game and FSU looks miles better this year than last

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3 minutes ago, PleaseCutStewart said:

I think more than a DC, we need to get an experienced OC so Dave can stop worrying about calling plays and actually be paying attention to the game.

Norvell tried to do the same crap at FSU. Finally got an experienced OC and let him focus on the coaching part of the game and FSU looks miles better this year than last

That should have been this year. Tough to sell to anyone worth getting when this crew is going into year 3 on the hot seat. I still think keeping Evero will sink them all after last year's showing. If/when he is scapegoated they need to show improvement or it's likely to be so eone else's problem next year. I do agree in principle tho, it all should have happened after last year's problems. 

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