Solid Breakdown of Bryce's Poor Performance/PFF Stuff

[Matthias]

All of you who keep posting up these PFF numbers, this is why I don't pay much attention if any to all that stuff.  Give me the real stats!  Give me the real performance of a player.  Stop all this moneyball stuff.  The A's never won anything on that stuff.  If I 'm not mistaken, we probably got former PFF employees in our scouting department.  And the results of that seem to be showing.
 

 

[Icege]

15min just to wait for the usual "BTT is a fake stat" nonsense I can get in any Huddle thread?

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[Waldo]

I do wonder what convinced the team to draft by PFF this year and then to have those grades come out after week 1 just makes it all look like a new low for everyone involved. 

[CRA]

19 minutes ago, Matthias said:

All of you who keep posting up these PFF numbers, this is why I don't pay much attention if any to all that stuff.  Give me the real stats!  Give me the real performance of a player.  Stop all this moneyball stuff.  The A's never won anything on that stuff.  If I 'm not mistaken, we probably got former PFF employees in our scouting department.  And the results of that seem to be showing.
 

 

we have a bunch of PFF people at Carolina now in the analytics department.  A bunch of old articles about how valuable those folks have been to Dan Morgan in shaping the team the past 2 years. 

Analytics certainly has it's place.   But I think it can also be taken to hogwash levels in sports. 

[Waldo]

Ohh big time throws is a PFF generated stat. They use it in their grading system and it's been around since thr 2010s. Damn no wonder PFF was always all over the place. It's completely subjective and presented as a fact lol

[Matthias]

When I read a lot of threads and posts on here, I believe It's possible some of you might be on the PFF payroll.

Edited September 10, 2025 by Matthias

[Waldo]

1 minute ago, CRA said:

we have a bunch of PFF people at Carolina now in the analytics department.  A bunch of old articles about how valuable those folks have been to Dan Morgan in shaping the team the past 2 years. 

Analytics certainly has it's place.   But I think it can also be taken to hogwash level in sports. 

So more people to fire when this crew gets the boot is what I am hearing. It makes the PFF grades more understandable too. 

[Icege]

It's strange that folks are still caught up on BTTs when the methodology has been shared and we have the game film to back it.

This isn't to say PFF is without fault. Their are definitely instances where a grade is questionable, but I've found that more often than not that the film backs the grade.

I'm hoping to get through the all-22 for the defense today so I can see what they saw that I didn't in regards to Moehrig. I'm still in denial over his grade, but I've seen a couple of clips as well where he was out of position (and another where a Jags player put him on his ass with a chip).

Edited September 10, 2025 by Icege

[electro's horse]

when i see chuba break two tackles on a checkdown and take it for a touchdown, I always thikn "wow, that was a BTT (Big Time Throw)"

[Newtcase]

We just got drug by the 4 win, new coaching staff Jags 26-10... a non competitive game.  That's a pretty straight forward stat.

[SetfreexX]

Take a look fellas...

 

[Shotgun]

Dude is spot on.

[Bear Hands]

That's one of the most sober and honest breakdowns I've seen of Bryce.  

That guys is being as real as can be.  No sugar coating, no tepidness to critique, blunt and straight to the point.

[WUnderhill]

Lol this is the second thread on this video alone. Bryce sucking has got to be the best thing to ever happen to the huddle, never seen so many threads created.