Reviewing the All-22: Week 1 @ JAX

[Khyber53]

Thanks for the work in putting this together! Excellent read.

 

[Navy_football]

1 hour ago, Icege said:

DB was definitely rusty and wasn't attracting the double blocks that he had in the past.

Seahawks fans were saying afterwards that the Panthers found out the hard way that BB3 doesn't play well against the run, but he posted a better run defense grade than pass defense. I'm hoping that with a familiar foe coming up in Arizona that BB3 can settle in more (especially with Turk out for the next few weeks).

DB was getting washed early. Even in 1v1 situations. I think he figured it out later, but they definitely gave him more breaks in this game than I've ever seen him take. There was a play where an olineman rolled B. Brown up. The next play he absolutely wrecked the play. Need that BB to show up early on Sunday. 

Edited 8 hours ago by Navy_football

[OldhamA]

1 hour ago, Martin said:

I’m far from an expert here, but is the system really fine? The inability to stop the run is a long standing thing with Evero. I have no faith in him or his system. 

Throw all of last year's numbers out as an outlier - he wasn't allowed to field 11 NFL players.

How do his numbers stack up then? Genuine question by the way.

Edited 8 hours ago by OldhamA

[Tr3ach]

10 hours ago, jfra78 said:

We know the defense is bad, the offense is supposed to help them.  Can't have a bunch of 3 and outs and turnovers and expect our defense to hold

To be fair the Panthers were 8/15 on 3rd downs.  That's pretty decent.  The defense being tired also doesnt change the predictable soft defensive play calling. 

[Bear Hands]

Some of this was good offensive playcalling against our front (the 4 & 1 for example).  But interesting on that one it was our 3-4 personnel but we technically had 5 with hands in the dirt.  I wouldn't call that a 5-2 but it's what 3-4 teams do in these run commit scenarios.  So that playcall restricts us from having 1 more guy to be more fluid in space on the strong side, and we lose lateral containment.       

Good job by our new safety to call it out presnap, but bad execution by Wallace and Jackson IMO.  Trevin with the error.  He saw the motion and shifted but took an initial angle towards the handoff not the anticipated location.  Bad field awareness.  So he was now behind and the Jags had 2 guys to engage Jackson & Moehrig on the outside.  Jackson just kind of sloppily engaged Strange.  

Outside of that, one of the biggest things I'm noticing is a severe, and I mean severe, lack of presnap communication on our defense.  It just seems to be Moehrig.  He had some iffy angles this game but was far and away doing the most to get our guys in the right place presnap.  I think Moehrig is trying to do everything and then some so he's going to be caught out of place because of this. 

Rozeboom and Wallace aren't doing that (and other things) which is a major concern.  Rozeboom took such a excessive first few steps in that last clip, he just gave the Jags a cozy opening to float in a completion.  You could see he was pissed. 

The 2 ILBs in our scheme need to be communicators and quick decision makers.  Trevin has the quickness but not the awareness or decision making.  Rozeboom doesn't have the quickness and is just average/below-average.  

We need help there if we want any sort of decent defense this season.  The line and OLBs have the ability to stop the run, but not when these 2 are making terrible decisions and allowing teams to play in the middle of the field. 

[Icege]

49 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

Some of this was good offensive playcalling against our front (the 4 & 1 for example).  But interesting on that one it was our 3-4 personnel but we technically had 5 with hands in the dirt.  I wouldn't call that a 5-2 but it's what 3-4 teams do in these run commit scenarios.  So that playcall restricts us from having 1 more guy to be more fluid in space on the strong side, and we lose lateral containment.       

Good job by our new safety to call it out presnap, but bad execution by Wallace and Jackson IMO.  Trevin with the error.  He saw the motion and shifted but took an initial angle towards the handoff not the anticipated location.  Bad field awareness.  So he was now behind and the Jags had 2 guys to engage Jackson & Moehrig on the outside.  Jackson just kind of sloppily engaged Strange.  

Outside of that, one of the biggest things I'm noticing is a severe, and I mean severe, lack of presnap communication on our defense.  It just seems to be Moehrig.  He had some iffy angles this game but was far and away doing the most to get our guys in the right place presnap.  I think Moehrig is trying to do everything and then some so he's going to be caught out of place because of this. 

Rozeboom and Wallace aren't doing that (and other things) which is a major concern.  Rozeboom took such a excessive first few steps in that last clip, he just gave the Jags a cozy opening to float in a completion.  You could see he was pissed. 

The 2 ILBs in our scheme need to be communicators and quick decision makers.  Trevin has the quickness but not the awareness or decision making.  Rozeboom doesn't have the quickness and is just average/below-average.  

We need help there if we want any sort of decent defense this season.  The line and OLBs have the ability to stop the run, but not when these 2 are making terrible decisions and allowing teams to play in the middle of the field. 

If not for Jaycee blowing up the block intended for him and tripping up Dyami, that jet sweep might have ended up being a house call.

The design and flow of Coen's play calling impressed me, especially with the way he was presenting different looks and using plenty of motion + misdirection.

Edited 7 hours ago by Icege

[Navy_football]

9 minutes ago, Icege said:

If not for Jaycee blowing up the block intended for him and tripping up Dyami, that jet sweep might have ended up being a house call.

The design and flow of Coen's play calling impressed me, especially with the way he was presenting different looks and using plenty of motion + misdirection.

Canales does this alot with our TEs too. Unfortunately Sanders and Tremble were out there catching blocks while the JAG's TEs were blowing folk up. 

[PleaseCutStewart]

Yeah, what the hell is Scott doing on that 1 play he dropped back to the 40?? There isn't 10 seconds left in the half and need to defend a hail mary...

[PleaseCutStewart]

Didn't realize how much cover 3 he runs. Seeing how many throws went to the middle of the hashes or boundaries about 10 yards deep, wish we ran some more Cover 2 zones that game

[Icege]

Wanted to give a quick shout out to those of y'all participating in the discussion in good faith. It's been a nice change of pace for some of us fans to combine our knowledge and try to figure things out rather than just looking for a scapegoat to blow off some steam. ♡

[Panthering]

Good breakdown! I'm not going to pretend like I know what I'm looking at all that well, but I get the feeling Coen knew exactly how to attack Evero's defense. Maybe we'll realize by the end of the year that he's a darn fine playcaller and we'll look back at this a little differently.

However.... some of these defensive players look pretty bad in a lot of different spots. #32 has been beat up a lot for that day already but this is just another reminder. He takes extremely puzzling angles too much. 

[Martin]

6 hours ago, OldhamA said:

Throw all of last year's numbers out as an outlier - he wasn't allowed to field 11 NFL players.

How do his numbers stack up then? Genuine question by the way.

Fair question, and I don’t have an answer for you. I just keep watching games and opponents keep doing the same thing with no adjustments being made. And for sure last years squad was weak, no doubt. It just feels very predictable, and line up choices feel questionable at best. But that is my take from the couch.

[Basbear]

6 hours ago, Bear Hands said:

Some of this was good offensive playcalling against our front (the 4 & 1 for example).  But interesting on that one it was our 3-4 personnel but we technically had 5 with hands in the dirt.  I wouldn't call that a 5-2 but it's what 3-4 teams do in these run commit scenarios.  So that playcall restricts us from having 1 more guy to be more fluid in space on the strong side, and we lose lateral containment.       

Good job by our new safety to call it out presnap, but bad execution by Wallace and Jackson IMO.  Trevin with the error.  He saw the motion and shifted but took an initial angle towards the handoff not the anticipated location.  Bad field awareness.  So he was now behind and the Jags had 2 guys to engage Jackson & Moehrig on the outside.  Jackson just kind of sloppily engaged Strange.  

Outside of that, one of the biggest things I'm noticing is a severe, and I mean severe, lack of presnap communication on our defense.  It just seems to be Moehrig.  He had some iffy angles this game but was far and away doing the most to get our guys in the right place presnap.  I think Moehrig is trying to do everything and then some so he's going to be caught out of place because of this. 

Rozeboom and Wallace aren't doing that (and other things) which is a major concern.  Rozeboom took such a excessive first few steps in that last clip, he just gave the Jags a cozy opening to float in a completion.  You could see he was pissed. 

The 2 ILBs in our scheme need to be communicators and quick decision makers.  Trevin has the quickness but not the awareness or decision making.  Rozeboom doesn't have the quickness and is just average/below-average.  

We need help there if we want any sort of decent defense this season.  The line and OLBs have the ability to stop the run, but not when these 2 are making terrible decisions and allowing teams to play in the middle of the field. 

 

I honestly think the Jags had a upper hand due to Dave being the OC of TB 2 years ago and going to rival sparked TB to give insight into Daves play call sheet or/and playbook. Jags were prepared too well and seemed to be in the Panthers huddle for around 80% of the plays. Props to them, they are the better team.  

Edited 1 hour ago by Basbear

[TheSpecialJuan]

Wonderful work.