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Just now, jfra78 said:

Why does every thread have to be about how Bryce sucks, sheesh

It’s the most important and impactful position on the team by a far margin.  And what basically everthing we have done roster wise is to help specifically him.

I mean, we can talk about nickel DB or something else but nothing comes to being as important 

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We're a Young Team, but I don't care the lost as much as I cared to see my team fight to the end, they didn't get down on themselves like this whole board, they kept pounding, and  who knows, we beat ATL, we can maybe take this division. Set small goals, see what's working and what's not. Young showed he can get going, Tmac showed he can create highlights, Renfrow is AT basically, XL(jury found guilty of all he's been accused of). When Coker comes back, and Sanders continuing to be a huge factor in blocking but also receiving. Pat Jones lit a fire in that defense. Lets focus on the positives and stop stressing the negatives. We better than last year at least...remember Young got benched, he could've easily been benched again after this game had it not been for his second half performance.   

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3 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

Why does every thread have to be about how Bryce sucks, sheesh

Well, for one because he does. But also because we mortgaged the franchise to draft him. A lot of the holes on our roster are directly downstream of all the assets we had to give up to draft him. We made that move because we thought he could carry us past it. 

But honestly, that second half says EVERYTHING. He was riding high when he could sit back there comfortable against soft zone and folded like a lawn chair as soon as it mattered and the Cardinals had to actually D up again. That's the story of his career. That's who he is. I'm tired of folks falling for that fool's gold.

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13 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

He's a stat padder against soft zone. Even with a bevy of questionable penalties giving us second and third chances. Did we actually gain any yardage that wasn't by flag on that drive? The Jekyll and Hyde is so obvious. He can't do poo unless the game and/or season is out of reach.

Thielen might have been the difference 

who knows 

or Horn with speed or Coker

 

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2 minutes ago, CRA said:

It’s the most important and impactful position on the team by a far margin.  And what basically everthing we have done roster wise is to help specifically him.

I mean, we can talk about nickel DB or something else but nothing comes to being as important 

We should talk Kicker

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2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Well, for one because he does. But also because we mortgaged the franchise to draft him. A lot of the holes on our roster are directly downstream of all the assets we had to give up to draft him. We made that move because we thought he could carry us past it. 

You gonna make Bryce cry

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15 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

He's a stat padder against soft zone. Even with a bevy of questionable penalties giving us second and third chances. Did we actually gain any yardage that wasn't by flag on that drive? The Jekyll and Hyde is so obvious. He can't do poo unless the game and/or season is out of reach.

No killer instinct.......will never be the guy.

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2 minutes ago, CarolinaReaper said:

We're a Young Team, but I don't care the lost as much as I cared to see my team fight to the end, they didn't get down on themselves like this whole board, they kept pounding, and  who knows, we beat ATL, we can maybe take this division. Set small goals, see what's working and what's not. Young showed he can get going, Tmac showed he can create highlights, Renfrow is AT basically, XL(jury found guilty of all he's been accused of). When Coker comes back, and Sanders continuing to be a huge factor in blocking but also receiving. Pat Jones lit a fire in that defense. Lets focus on the positives and stop stressing the negatives. We better than last year at least...remember Young got benched, he could've easily been benched again after this game had it not been for his second half performance.   

Yeah, we fought right up until we actually had a chance and then Bryce folded like a cheap suit. Props to the team. I apologize to them for Bryce letting them down.

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