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We won, but Bryce and Canalas still blow


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Bryce didn’t pass deep at all, was throwing behind receivers, couldn’t consistently get first downs, and was generally unproductive after the first drive. 

That wasn’t dictated by the game score; that’s how the vast majority of his pro games have gone, even his “good” ones (I think most people have forgotten how the eagles game actually played out)

the fact that Penix was out there shitting on the field and rolling around in it and getting it on his clothes and feet and then walking into the house and touching all the walls isn’t relevant. 

This is just who Bryce at his general best is: 100-150 yards, around 12-15 completions, maybe one completion downfield, maybe a touchdown, maybe a turnover, maxing out at about 22 points depending on how bad the other team is. 

game flow had nothing to do with that. 

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Would you be okay with this being his ceiling. Middle of the pack QB who can do basically what needs to be done to win some games. Not a franchise QB nor a total bust. Average QB at best. 

 

Should they ride this train (if this is indeed the case), and just keep building the rest of the team out. To many needs to keep neglecting other aspects of the team for one guy. Let's face it, he is what he is.

 

By the way.....great win Panthers and just what we all needed. Good job

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1 hour ago, Kuhndog94 said:

Would you be okay with this being his ceiling. Middle of the pack QB who can do basically what needs to be done to win some games. Not a franchise QB nor a total bust. Average QB at best. 

 

Should they ride this train (if this is indeed the case), and just keep building the rest of the team out. To many needs to keep neglecting other aspects of the team for one guy. Let's face it, he is what he is.

 

By the way.....great win Panthers and just what we all needed. Good job

No. That is the definition of mediocrity. It looks great next to 2-15, I will concede that. 
He has to do better. He to be the reason, not the weak link. 

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12 minutes ago, strato said:

No. That is the definition of mediocrity. It looks great next to 2-15, I will concede that. 
He has to do better. He to be the reason, not the weak link. 

That's called purgatory.

The problem is even in games where he is turning the ball over and largely terrible eventually it opens the door for garbage time stats that skew the conversation and simply serve as a tool for some to argue in favor of prolonging the inevitable.

For a third year QB the only numbers that should hold weight are what he does in crunch time and when the game matters. Even in the recent dominating win there's just no meat on the bone there. Nothing that stands out.

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7 hours ago, Panthering said:

Offense is way down across the league

Personally I welcome the return of the dead ball era.

But yeah, we're still a horrifically flawed team that took advantage of the Falcons taking a poo on the field in basically every way imaginable.  I'm enjoying it but keeping things in context.

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On 9/21/2025 at 2:32 PM, Panthers Fan 69 said:

This may ruffle some feathers, but if we had and an average QB, we would have won by 50 points. Canalas still completely devalues the run when our best weapon is still Chuba. Make of it what you want but it’s fools gold. Bryce and Canalas will figure out a way to screw this up next week. 

STFU 

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2 hours ago, frankw said:

That's called purgatory.

The problem is even in games where he is turning the ball over and largely terrible eventually it opens the door for garbage time stats that skew the conversation and simply serve as a tool for some to argue in favor of prolonging the inevitable.

For a third year QB the only numbers that should hold weight are what he does in crunch time and when the game matters. Even in the recent dominating win there's just no meat on the bone there. Nothing that stands out.

You are preaching to the choir on this one Frank. I have been in a really bad fan mood since they did the deed, because I saw years of this coming, which did come, and because of all the mass hysteria along the way whenever he doesn’t fail. 
It is like TDS but in reverse. 

 

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9 hours ago, electro's horse said:

Bryce didn’t pass deep at all, was throwing behind receivers, couldn’t consistently get first downs, and was generally unproductive after the first drive. 

That wasn’t dictated by the game score; that’s how the vast majority of his pro games have gone, even his “good” ones (I think most people have forgotten how the eagles game actually played out)

the fact that Penix was out there shitting on the field and rolling around in it and getting it on his clothes and feet and then walking into the house and touching all the walls isn’t relevant. 

This is just who Bryce at his general best is: 100-150 yards, around 12-15 completions, maybe one completion downfield, maybe a touchdown, maybe a turnover, maxing out at about 22 points depending on how bad the other team is. 

game flow had nothing to do with that. 

ATL out gained Panthers in total, rush and pass.

The game was won by ST mainly by field position. I mean BY just needs around 35 yards and they were in FG range a few times. 

 

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4 hours ago, Kuhndog94 said:

Would you be okay with this being his ceiling. Middle of the pack QB who can do basically what needs to be done to win some games. Not a franchise QB nor a total bust. Average QB at best. 

 

Should they ride this train (if this is indeed the case), and just keep building the rest of the team out. To many needs to keep neglecting other aspects of the team for one guy. Let's face it, he is what he is.

 

By the way.....great win Panthers and just what we all needed. Good job

HEEEELLLLL NO!! And why would anybody be okay with that?? 

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