We won, but Bryce and Canalas still blow

[Panthering]

36 minutes ago, Waldo said:

It's really bad football to watch. At their best it's boring and hard to find any respect for that wasted time. 

Are there any decent teams anymore in the NFL or is it just bad vs worse every game?

Offense is way down across the league

[electro's horse]

Bryce didn’t pass deep at all, was throwing behind receivers, couldn’t consistently get first downs, and was generally unproductive after the first drive. 

That wasn’t dictated by the game score; that’s how the vast majority of his pro games have gone, even his “good” ones (I think most people have forgotten how the eagles game actually played out)

the fact that Penix was out there shitting on the field and rolling around in it and getting it on his clothes and feet and then walking into the house and touching all the walls isn’t relevant. 

This is just who Bryce at his general best is: 100-150 yards, around 12-15 completions, maybe one completion downfield, maybe a touchdown, maybe a turnover, maxing out at about 22 points depending on how bad the other team is. 

game flow had nothing to do with that. 

[Kuhndog94]

Would you be okay with this being his ceiling. Middle of the pack QB who can do basically what needs to be done to win some games. Not a franchise QB nor a total bust. Average QB at best. 

 

Should they ride this train (if this is indeed the case), and just keep building the rest of the team out. To many needs to keep neglecting other aspects of the team for one guy. Let's face it, he is what he is.

 

By the way.....great win Panthers and just what we all needed. Good job

[strato]

1 hour ago, Kuhndog94 said:

Would you be okay with this being his ceiling. Middle of the pack QB who can do basically what needs to be done to win some games. Not a franchise QB nor a total bust. Average QB at best. 

 

Should they ride this train (if this is indeed the case), and just keep building the rest of the team out. To many needs to keep neglecting other aspects of the team for one guy. Let's face it, he is what he is.

 

By the way.....great win Panthers and just what we all needed. Good job

No. That is the definition of mediocrity. It looks great next to 2-15, I will concede that. 
He has to do better. He to be the reason, not the weak link. 

[frankw]

12 minutes ago, strato said:

No. That is the definition of mediocrity. It looks great next to 2-15, I will concede that. 
He has to do better. He to be the reason, not the weak link. 

That's called purgatory.

The problem is even in games where he is turning the ball over and largely terrible eventually it opens the door for garbage time stats that skew the conversation and simply serve as a tool for some to argue in favor of prolonging the inevitable.

For a third year QB the only numbers that should hold weight are what he does in crunch time and when the game matters. Even in the recent dominating win there's just no meat on the bone there. Nothing that stands out.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

7 hours ago, Panthering said:

Offense is way down across the league

Personally I welcome the return of the dead ball era.

But yeah, we're still a horrifically flawed team that took advantage of the Falcons taking a poo on the field in basically every way imaginable.  I'm enjoying it but keeping things in context.

[CRA]

7 hours ago, Panthering said:

Offense is way down across the league

NFL defenses have shifted to a trend of 2 high to take away the deep vertical balls and limit explosive plays/offenses.