Official Week 4: Panthers at Patriots Gameday Thread

[CRA]

Bryce should play every game.  This is the way.

BUT…eventually we get into a job issue for coaches and of course a locker room issue.  But he should play every single game

[fanpanther]

also y did they trade theilen again?  wonder if we can undo it lol

[Gapanthersfan]

6 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

I could be wrong, but ngl, from my observations, Andy is not what he used to be, but his arm is still noticeably stronger than Bryce’s.  Even when Bryce tries to throw a pass on a line, it hangs in the air forever.  It’s enough of a difference that allows him to get it where it needs to be.

It’s still that same swing pass from the first ATL game

[frankw]

1 minute ago, The Lobo said:

Makes ya wonder why he didn’t do a thing at the combine…

Needs to be said every time it is mentioned. So many people here shouted down anyone that was concerned about it.

[SmokinwithWilly]

1 minute ago, fanpanther said:

100% dalton sucks but he has an nfl arm albeit a weak nfl arm.  young just doesnt have nfl physical talent.  no coach could win wirh him.  announcers r so irritating they have to c he doesnt have it.  talking abiut offensive talenr the patriats scoring no issues with no better talsnt at all.  no coach can win with young

You must have watched the whole game to drink that much

[carpanfan96]

8 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

It's not even about T-Mac's chances, it's not even that I want it for my fantasy team.

It's that through 4 weeks we haven't thrown that pass a single time.  

This game was over, nothing that happened on that play mattered for the game, it was the perfect opportunity to run that play for the first time and we didn't.

It really just doesn't make sense to have a player like him, to have probably around 15-20 snaps already this year where we could have called the play, and we haven't, not one time.

It makes ZERO sense.

BY can't make that type of throw consistently so it isn't in the offense. Now they might put it in the game plan if a different QB was running the offense but it is what it is with BY. 

[The Lobo]

Just now, frankw said:

Needs to be said every time it is mentioned. So many people here shouted down anyone that was concerned about it.

Gained a bunch of water weight for the weigh in too. Rhule and Young both fooled this front office. 

[frankw]

2 minutes ago, CRA said:

Bryce should play every game.  This is the way.

BUT…eventually we get into a job issue for coaches and of course a locker room issue.  But he should play every single game

It only works if you're a fan. For the players in the locker room it is inconsistent accountability. Can't hold anyone else accountable if the starting QB is the center of the problem and keeps his job.

Edited 1 hour ago by frankw

[tukafan21]

Just now, carpanfan96 said:

BY can't make that type of throw consistently so it isn't in the offense. Now they might put it in the game plan if a different QB was running the offense but it is what it is with BY. 

A 5 yard touch throw to the corner is about the only throw he is actually able to make at a high level, as it doesn't require a strong arm, it doesn't require processing the pass rush, it's taking the snap and immediately throwing a muscle memory touch pass to a place where only your 6'5" WR has a chance to catch it.

[45catfan]

1 minute ago, fanpanther said:

also y did they trade theilen again?  wonder if we can undo it lol

Adam wanted it.  I knew this would expose Bryce.  Thielen is a SUPERB route runner, one of the best in the game even at his age and minus him, it was a given that Bryce would struggle even more.

[SmokinwithWilly]

2 minutes ago, The Lobo said:

Makes ya wonder why he didn’t do a thing at the combine…

He couldn’t. He packed on 15-20 lbs of water weight. His entire combine was a con and our owner fell for it and his practiced S2 test results. Anyone could see it was all smoke and mirrors by a carnival side show con man.

[Proudiddy]

1 minute ago, tukafan21 said:

A 5 yard touch throw to the corner is about the only throw he is actually able to make at a high level, as it doesn't require a strong arm, it doesn't require processing the pass rush, it's taking the snap and immediately throwing a muscle memory touch pass to a place where only your 6'5" WR has a chance to catch it.

He isn’t able to make routine throws.  That’s the problem.  Even throws you would expect would come naturally, he fugs it up.  I said earlier in the thread, they got Tet because Bryce supposedly needed a receiver with a hug catch radius to mitigate some of the off/target throws - and he STILL misses him 9 out of 10 throws.  Whatever we do to try to compensate for his weaknesses, he just gets even worse at whatever it is.  We went and got XL to help take the top off of defenses and also get it to him quick and let him do damage with YAC.  And Bryce can’t get it to him in advantageous spots either.

[Candler Cat]

6 hours ago, Candler Cat said:

mediocre or trash Bryce, which do we get todaY

[WhoKnows]

3 minutes ago, fanpanther said:

also y did they trade theilen again?  wonder if we can undo it lol

WTF do I keep seeing this posted?

Thielen would not have impacted any games we played. We’d have the same record. We are better off with the 4th, which hopefully will be used by competent scouting/GM.

I will say that it does seem like you watched the game and lost a bet with a NE fan to have a beer for every point NE scored so don’t worry about it!