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Any well functioning team benches Bryce


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9 minutes ago, OneBadCat said:

Obviously he hasn’t turned the corner as we’ve thought. But you gotta be a fan and cheer the team on and be hopeful. You have become a grouch CRA. Spoiled by Cam, so I do understand.

I’m not a grouch.  Water is just wet.  And we get it thrown in our face every single Sunday.  So I say the simple and obvious.  

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I'm just going to enjoy the win this week.  It took a terrible start to lean on the run game, but boy did it pop once they did.  Dowdle has been a bright spot all year.  Defense played with some heart.  This team has been very emotionally fragile and it felt like some dudes got pissed today.  I'm taking the week off of shitting on the team.  I'm proud of the effort today, need more like this.

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Just now, mav1234 said:

20th ranked passing D, 30th ranked rushing D... Both pretty bad 

We're 10th and 23rd ranked for context, given how much people poo on our passing D lol.

you would have seen them playing both safeties in cover and not playing the run because we sucked at it most season. Canales called a good game. Bryce needs to protect the football but overall it was good to see it didn’t spiral like usual

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13 minutes ago, Billy Goat said:

He played bad in that first quarter, but you can't bench him after leading the team to a win after being 17-0 down.

I'm not crazy about Young, at least he didn't lose it for them. I will give him credit for that.

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5 minutes ago, weyco2000 said:

Posts like this is why this place sucks.

I’d argue it’s the people at BOA.  The ones who can’t figure out the obvious.   

but I’m sure the Teppers would like your post over mine 

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12 minutes ago, AceBoogie said:

If you come away from this game thinking you need to Bench Bryce you’re crazy. He’s wildly inconsistent, but was a contributor in the winning of this game. 

This is what bothered me about the Delhomme and Cardiac Cats era. You get more credit for not committing turnovers vs working through your own mistakes. Young is holding the team back. Defense, ST, and the run game came to play today and we almost lost. 

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1 minute ago, Donald LaFell said:

This is what bothered me about the Delhomme and Cardiac Cats era. You get more credit for not committing turnovers vs working through your own mistakes. Young is holding the team back. Defense, ST, and the run game came to play today and we almost lost. 

I thought I was the only one! Watching Delhomme flounder for 3 quarters then finally put it together in the 4th and get praised for it. Instead of just not being ass to get us in the hole to begin with.

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Every win comes from a non-sustainable source.  As CRA mentioned, Penix absolutely imploding against ATL, and then today, defense finally clicked and looked the best they’ve looked in a long time (and still have up 24 points lol) and Rico ran for 200+ yards.  We’re not going to get that every week, especially against good teams, which neither Miami or ATL are.  Both MIA and ATL are bad teams and Bryce still couldn’t get it together.  The defense (and team) had to overcome 14 points because of his turnovers again.  That was not even an average QB performance.  We are winning in spite of him. 

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I think the thing is it's fine to win games where your QB doesn't need to perform particularly well.

The issue is that his best games this year have been those games.

And we gotta decide what to do with him after this year... Which, I think we know.

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