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Bryce Young will have a Brees career arc. I doubt it will be with the Panthers.

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20 minutes ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

Facts are he is short and has shitty mechanics and arm strength. Also it is year 3 and he is still making rookie mistakes. 

He's also put zero effort in to learning how to baseball slide, which people killed Cam about and he actually put in the work and learned quickly. 

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Mike and Alex from the Observer had a pretty good discussion about Bryce in the most recent Processing Blue podcast they did.  I listened to it on the way in this morning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s6A012S6vA&t=984s

Bryce will give you 5 or so "wow plays" versus 5 or so "WTF plays."  There's just a nuance to any discussion of Bryce.  There's a lot to be made of his physical limitations and his mental errors.  No matter what, Bryce is just so polarizing.  

Personally - I still think Bryce is going to have to prove it this year.  Can he prove to us that he's the franchise?  I don't know.  He's going to have to play better and elevate the team.  We haven't seen that yet.  Let's let him develop.  It will lead us to a top 10 pick or a more competitive team.

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9 minutes ago, d-dave said:

Mike and Alex from the Observer had a pretty good discussion about Bryce in the most recent Processing Blue podcast they did.  I listened to it on the way in this morning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s6A012S6vA&t=984s

Bryce will give you 5 or so "wow plays" versus 5 or so "WTF plays."  There's just a nuance to any discussion of Bryce.  There's a lot to be made of his physical limitations and his mental errors.  No matter what, Bryce is just so polarizing.  

Personally - I still think Bryce is going to have to prove it this year.  Can he prove to us that he's the franchise?  I don't know.  He's going to have to play better and elevate the team.  We haven't seen that yet.  Let's let him develop.  It will lead us to a top 10 pick or a more competitive team.

The investment in him has been massive when you look at the support investments along with the assets directly invested in him.

Without mentioning that the rest of the team had to adapt to two head coaches in two years. 
 

As Parcels said about walking on water, his feet are wet. But I wonder what the bar is for a 250 million dollar deal. It has been a low bar to this point. It is scary. 

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3 minutes ago, strato said:

The investment in him has been massive when you look at the support investments along with the assets directly invested in him.

Without mentioning that the rest of the team had to adapt to two head coaches in two years. 
 

As Parcels said about walking on water, his feet are wet. But I wonder what the bar is for a 250 million dollar deal. It has been a low bar to this point. It is scary. 

I shudder to think of even a Brock Purdy sized investment into Bryce. That would cripple the franchise for years.

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25 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I shudder to think of even a Brock Purdy sized investment into Bryce. That would cripple the franchise for years.

This.  The Panthers paid up big time to get the number one pick.  We gambled and lost by selecting a unicorn; mistake number one.  Now the team is so over committed to shaping a Bryce-friendly roster, just to justify the original decision to trade up and draft him; mistake number two.  The Panthers brain trust will now double down on the above by signing him to a new plus size contract next year?  If he hasn’t proved beyond the shadow of a doubt that he is a franchise QB by now, how can they possibly throw even more money at this experiment?  Will some adult in the room please explain the concept of ‘sunk cost’ to Tepper?  Absent ego, cut your loss and move on.

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34 minutes ago, bythenbrs said:

This.  The Panthers paid up big time to get the number one pick.  We gambled and lost by selecting a unicorn; mistake number one.  Now the team is so over committed to shaping a Bryce-friendly roster, just to justify the original decision to trade up and draft him; mistake number two.  The Panthers brain trust will now double down on the above by signing him to a new plus size contract next year?  If he hasn’t proved beyond the shadow of a doubt that he is a franchise QB by now, how can they possibly throw even more money at this experiment?  Will some adult in the room please explain the concept of ‘sunk cost’ to Tepper?  Absent ego, cut your loss and move on.

If they do, and as of right now I hope they don’t, maybe they can make is very team friendly. Where there is an out after 2 years.  
Kinda like what the Giants did when they extended Daniel Jones. 

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2 minutes ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

If they do, and as of right now I hope they don’t, maybe they can make is very team friendly. Where there is an out after 2 years.  
Kinda like what the Giants did when they extended Daniel Jones. 

Get ready brother, feels like the team is feeding the media that bryce is the guy moving forward

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5 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

We were that close to it happening last Sunday if Rico hadn't of turned into Jim Brown. 

Rico’s output last game is still a net positive for the team long term, even if it postponed BY’s reckoning by another game or so.  Thrilled with the idea of retaining him and having Chubba and Rico for the next QB that replaces BY.

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21 hours ago, thunderraiden said:

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I've thought since day 1, even though I wanted Stroud, that if Young was going to be successful he would likely look like Brees to start and end up taking off later in his career on a new team. Unfortunately/fortunately so far that looks to be spot on. By every metric aside from Yds/g, so far in 2025, Year 3 Bryce Young is significantly outplaying Brees' Year 3. My feeling is that the Bryce Young we saw at the end of last year was actually just a sneak peek of the player he is to become in a year or 2. Weather he will be on the Panthers or another team remains to be seen, I just hope if he isn't on the Panthers when he does play like the back half of 2024 for full time that we at least have our version of Philip Rivers in his place...

You are probably right. 

And let's not wish for a Philip Rivers. All hat and no cattle... all stats and no wins.

 

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