The Panthers’ Offensive Spending Is Misleading — and Bryce Young Is Paying the Price

[cranky]

2 minutes ago, KillerKat said:

Op should just eat the poo they are getting and move on. Its pretty embarrassing for them.

And where is the fun in that

[CRA]

1 hour ago, cranky said:

Yes their best draft collateral was spent to support Bryce but that does not change the fact that they made poor choices. Drafting Mingo and Legette and were poor draft choices - ones that crippled the offensive play and did anything but help Young develope. Legette could still turn it around but to this point, he has not been productive.

The spending is misleading if you use it to gauge the support given to Young. It doesn't matter what dollar amount you use on the offense if none of it actually goes toward given Young someone to throw a pass to. 

 

XL isn’t QB friendly for Bryce.  Conceded that when we drafted him and noted he only made sense if we were moving on from Bryce.  He was a raw WR for the Canales offensive tree.  And Bryce is not a QB for that tree. 

but it always brings us back to Bryce. Round peg.  Square hole.  

they drafted an anomoly at QB that would only have a chance at being good in a unicorn offense.  We are wasting our time.  I advocated we should give it a go.  We didn’t.   So we should move on from him.  

[strato]

This is ridiculous. Pretzel logic. 
Going the extra mile of turning every angle to reach the desired conclusion. 

This could be made really simple if Canales would just play Dalton again. Everyone says he is washed. If a washed QB could do something with those groceries what would that say about this whole Herculean effort to pedestal Bryce? 
We have seen him do it before. 
 

[electro's horse]

Just gonna chime in that this seems to be criticizing the panthers for not having any high priced free agent wrs

1. who are the options we could have signed but didn’t 

2. Have you considered no fa WR wants to play for this team 

Edited 1 hour ago by electro's horse

[SmokinwithWilly]

7 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

Just gonna chime in that this seems to be criticizing the panthers for not having any high priced free agent wrs

1. who are the options we could have signed but didn’t 

2. Have you considered no fa WR wants to play for this team 

Hard to pay FA WRs when you've spent so much of your cap on the oline. 

And no matter how much you spend on offense or how many picks, its not going to fix the fumbling issue or the footwork fundamentals that haven't improved at all in the slightest and those have nothing to do with anyone except Bryce. 

[cranky]

37 minutes ago, strato said:

This is ridiculous. Pretzel logic. 
Going the extra mile of turning every angle to reach the desired conclusion. 

This could be made really simple if Canales would just play Dalton again. Everyone says he is washed. If a washed QB could do something with those groceries what would that say about this whole Herculean effort to pedestal Bryce? 
We have seen him do it before. 
 

Really. You mean like last year. TLooking at the numbers, Dalton doesn't look any better than Bryce. And if you look at Bryce after he came back from being benched, you see he clearly outpayed Dalton. 

 

 

[TD alt]

Draft capital is capital in terms of player support. 

Bryce had bad mechanics as a collegiate, but when you're playing with a supporting cast that's arguably better than 98 percent of the teams, all your flaws are minimized and give the appearance that you are better than you actually are. His third season in the pros, where there is far greater parity across the board, those same bad mechanics are laid bare for anyone that's halfway able to see, and are a liability for any NFL offense that actually wants any type of consistent verticality to their game. And that's before all of the other sketchy decision making, mistimed throws, overthrows, generally off-the-mark throws, and continual fumbles. 

[Jackie Lee]

7 minutes ago, TD alt said:

Draft capital is capital in terms of player support. 

Bryce had bad mechanics as a collegiate, but when you're playing with a supporting cast that's arguably better than 98 percent of the teams, all your flaws are minimized and give the appearance that you are better than you actually are. His third season in the pros, where there is far greater parity across the board, those same bad mechanics are laid bare for anyone that's halfway able to see, and are a liability for any NFL offense that actually wants any type of consistent verticality to their game. And that's before all of the other sketchy decision making, mistimed throws, overthrows, generally off-the-mark throws, and continual fumbles. 

It was obvious his drop in quality of play in his senior year was directly linked to him losing some NFL caliber talent around him and he couldn't pick up the slack. Like the opposite of what Cam did for Auburn

[raleigh-panther]

4 hours ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

Every move we’ve made is wrong except drafting Bryce.

Yep. Isn't it just exhausting…all the reasons why Bryce is what he is at the nfl level 

I’m not sure what nfl team he could be on…perfection expectation is exhausting and it doesn’t exist in the nfl

#1 draft picks are supposed to make chicken salad out of chicken  poo, not be chicken poo. 

if his happy ass continues to spot  opponents 2 tds before the second qtr ends, he won’t be on the NFL much longer in any case 

[strato]

27 minutes ago, cranky said:

Really. You mean like last year. TLooking at the numbers, Dalton doesn't look any better than Bryce. And if you look at Bryce after he came back from being benched, you see he clearly outpayed Dalton. 

 

 

Numbers. I am talking about watching. This year was mop up after Bryce had poo the bed again. 
I am talking bout the previous two week 3 games where Dalton started. Same groceries. Players. If you just watched the offense, it told you the truth right away. 
I don’t think I am alone in thinking there was a clear difference to how the offense looked. 
All these hoops you are asking us all to jump through to make your narrative appear valid, it is a psyop. Massive house of csrds. I don’t buy it.