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Panthers win and this place is miserable

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Tr3ach Grand Master

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4 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

So to be clear, if we finish the season 7-10 with a whole bunch of blowout losses because we’re still making the same mistakes and poor play calling, so closing out 3-7 the rest of the way…

Will you still have enjoyed the season and be excited for our future?

If so, then congrats to you for being able to enjoy the season, but I also feel bad for you because to me, it means you’ve given up on us ever being a good franchise and contending again.

Our past is a sunk cost, I just don’t understand why fans are happy with poor play that results in wins over bad teams, just because of how bad we’ve been in the past.

We won the games because the other teams were worse than us, not because we played better, sorry if that doesn’t pump me up to watch us play poorly but squeak out a win in what will end up another season with a losing record.

We aren't 7-10, we are currently 4-3.. youre already making negative hypothetical scenarios to prove your point.  Honestly 7 wins this season was about my expectation, im not sure why you would have expected a lot more than that.  Anyways, 4-3 doesnt equal 7-10

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thank you.  THANK fuging YOU!  my god, todays game thread was absolutely miserable.  What I learned in the game thread was bryce sucks, chuba sucks, canales sucks, dalton sucks.  Hell I discovered Corbett sucks so bad that he made mays make a bad snap.  Jesus buttfuging christ.  Its a win, not a pretty one, but who cares, NFL still is the NFL, talent everywhere and especially that Jets Defense has some exceptional talent even with the offense being putrid.  First time over 500 in half a decade and its the end of the world.  I remember us being "Insert win total" is the worst undefeated team in NFL history all the way to 15-1.  

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4 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

Well the majority of them swore up and down how much better Andy Dalton would be and yah…

Rough day

Well he didn't exactly look better but he didn't look much worse either lol. 

Plus most of us that did have also been wanting to bring in a different backup all along, and especially now that Bryce may be out some time

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2 minutes ago, Mage said:

Bro, you talk like I actually play for the Carolina Panthers.

Sorry for being happy about my team winning

Sorry for being frustrated about my team looking like dog poo today, because win or not, they did and if you can’t objectively see that, then it’s a you problem, not a me problem.

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It's a road win which has been glaringly rare in these parts for some time now so I'll take it.

That being said.

The Jets had the 10th pass defense and the 23rd run defense. Honestly we're lucky we even reached the end zone the one time we did. 13 points 138 passing yards at 5.5 yards per pass against an 0-6 team is more of the same extremely obviously unsustainable circumstances the fanbase has continually gone back and forth over in the Bryce Young era. We're nearly 40 games deep here folks.

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1 minute ago, Carolina Cajun said:

thank you.  THANK fuging YOU!  my god, todays game thread was absolutely miserable.  What I learned in the game thread was bryce sucks, chuba sucks, canales sucks, dalton sucks.  Hell I discovered Corbett sucks so bad that he made mays make a bad snap.  Jesus buttfuging christ.  Its a win, not a pretty one, but who cares, NFL still is the NFL, talent everywhere and especially that Jets Defense has some exceptional talent even with the offense being putrid.  First time over 500 in half a decade and its the end of the world.  I remember us being "Insert win total" is the worst undefeated team in NFL history all the way to 15-1.  

99% of the Chuba commentary was NOT about Chuba personally, it was that Rico was clearly the hotter back today.

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1 minute ago, tukafan21 said:

Sorry for being frustrated about my team looking like dog poo today, because win or not, they did and if you can’t objectively see that, then it’s a you problem, not a me problem.

I'd argue the defense did not look like dog poo. Especially some of our younger players, Horn, and Brown.

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2 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

Sorry for being frustrated about my team looking like sit poo today, because win or not, they did and if you can’t objectively see that, then it’s a you problem, not a me problem.

Who said they looked great?

See, that is the difference between me and you.  I can acknowledge that they weren't perfect today.  But I also remember how they have looked since 2018.  I also remember how the season was looking after Week 2.  
 

So again, I am so sorry I am proud of a team who's literal slogan is "Keep Pounding" for doing exactly that. 

And I just care about winning.  We have won 3 straight.  I'm not going to be less excited about that just because we might lose next week or the week after.  That is stupid as hell.  I'm going to be happy, and I'll let the players and coaches figure out how to improve upon this performance.

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3 minutes ago, Mage said:

Is this how you live your life?  Not enjoying the moment because it could POTENTIALLY get worse in the future?

That's pretty sad, ngl.

I get what he's saying. Winning is fine, but if you're not improving, you're going to stay where you are, which for us is 4-7 wins, year after year. Losing, but showing improvement week to week, will eventually result in better play on a more consistent basis and then the wins will come with more frequency. Net result is consistent winning teams and playoffs. Short term vs long term. 

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The Jets  are winless this season & one of the few teams in the NFL with a starting QB worse than ours; and we still only won this game by 7 points. The defense played well, but our offense should have had the team well ahead in the 4th quarter. The Jets still had a chance to tie this game on their last possession. If the Jets had started Tyrod Taylor they very well could have won this game. This victory wasn't nearly as impressive as the last two.

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Also it's worth noting the backup QB threads are predicated on the idea Young is injured. There's one grumbly Young post and the rest are because we are in contention still and if Young misses any time and frankly regardless we need a backup because Dalton looks old.

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Just now, SmokinwithWilly said:

I get what he's saying. Winning is fine, but if you're not improving, you're going to stay where you are, which for us is 4-7 wins, year after year. Losing, but showing improvement week to week, will eventually result in better play on a more consistent basis and then the wins will come with more frequency. Net result is consistent winning teams and playoffs. Short term vs long term. 

Just so we are on the same page - you feel the Panthers haven't shown ANY improvement since Week 1 or last year?

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