Where does Bryce rank on the all-time draft bust list?

[CRA]

1 hour ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

I think it also has to be factored in how much else has been spent to support him. It's not just the picks to get him, but an obscene amount just to try and build an offense to see if he's even serviceable as a starter. We've spent 3 years worth of picks and resources for results that would have been cut in training camp if he hadn't been an overall number 1. 

we must give up 48 picks and DJ Moore for Bryce.....the bright side is Bryce will save us from having to spend and invest a lot into the O and it can all be put into the rest of the team.  Panthers proceed to spend all their picks on drafting skill talent to make Bryce not look bad and have to go out and spent more money on the OL than anyone else in the NFL LOL. 

Total con job by Fitterer.    

[SmokinwithWilly]

12 minutes ago, CRA said:

we must give up 48 picks and DJ Moore for Bryce.....the bright side is Bryce will save us from having to spend and invest a lot into the O and it can't all be put into the rest of the team.  Panthers proceed to spend all their picks on drafting skill talent to make Bryce not look bad and have to go out and spent more money on the OL than anyone else in the NFL LOL. 

Total con job by Fitterer.    

He tried to smash a square peg into a round hole and all it left us was splinters

[electro's horse]

Honestly he’s not as bad as leaf simply because he should never of had the expectation of being able to do play the position.

unlike Bryce, Leaf succeeded on a college team without all world talent at every position. He also had all the physical tools you could possibly ask for. I will never forget seeing him play the panthers in 2000, getting pulled down from behind in the pocket from like the chargers 35, and hitting a coveted wide receiver in stride in the air for the touchdown. Absurd pass.

He just went to one of the worst possible situations for him to be in. The chargers medical staff got him hooked on pain meds too.

he also signed the largest signing bonus ever in the nfl up to that point. Imagine how much worse the Bryce situation would be if we’d had to give him like 90 mil guaranteed 

[Johnstonny]

24 minutes ago, CRA said:

we must give up 48 picks and DJ Moore for Bryce.....the bright side is Bryce will save us from having to spend and invest a lot into the O and it can all be put into the rest of the team.  Panthers proceed to spend all their picks on drafting skill talent to make Bryce not look bad and have to go out and spent more money on the OL than anyone else in the NFL LOL. 

Total con job by Fitterer.    

Fitterer couldn't take a sht without it being ok'd by daddy Dipper....and at that he prolly told him when he could.

[CRA]

Just now, Johnstonny said:

Fitterer couldn't take a sht without it being ok'd by daddy Dipper....and at that he prolly told him when he could.

I mean the Colts owner is literally in a headset on the field w/ a notepad lol.  I still think the bulk of the bad decisions are squarely made by the bad people he hires.  Not him telling them what to do. 

I think the GM team sold Tepper on Bryce.   By all reports it is was split decision in house.   Tepper agreed w/ that side of the house.   Not an order by a king.  Reporters largely sniff it all out and it's not how they reported it.  And I think we know team Frank was anti- Bryce and pro CJ.  They lost. 

 

[rodeo]

2 hours ago, mav1234 said:

I think given the trade he is probably the biggest Panthers draft bust.  I think more and more people are coming around to that.

But the very fact he started 30+ games means he is far from a top bust overall IMO.

Exactly. Biggest Panthers bust, easily. But if people are saying NFL overall he's not top 10.

[electro's horse]

2 minutes ago, rodeo said:

Exactly. Biggest Panthers bust, easily. But if people are saying NFL overall he's not top 10.

Yeah he is. He's put together a worse 3 years of qb play than Jamarcus did, in an era where QBs aren't allowed to struggle that long. Say what you want about his first season, the Panthers have bent over backwards for him this year and in 2024, so it's even worse relatively. And he's doing it in a much easier era to play QB, even compared to the late 2000s. 

I think we need to keep comparisons contained to the modern era, and even then probably in the salary cap era, just because of how much more advanced scouting and drafting is etc. Like back in the day teams would just draft whomever based on what their college coach said about them. They'd blow first rounders all the time, it wasn't as big a thing as it is now. 

The main thing keeping Bryce from all time busthood is him just not having the physical tools to have those huge expectations but given everything sacrificed for him he's easily top 5. 

[Bear Hands]

47 minutes ago, CRA said:

Total con job by Fitterer.    

This journey has been so painful, he somehow feels like forever ago.  

[electro's horse]

does anyone have that picture of Fitterer eating by himself at the end of the bar at the B Dubs in Ballantyne

Bro was just housing boneless buffalo wings, gut hanging out, free from shame. 

[KillerKat]

40 minutes ago, rodeo said:

Exactly. Biggest Panthers bust, easily. But if people are saying NFL overall he's not top 10.

[frankw]

As far as the biggest bust there are other candidates who would undoubtedly garner heavy consideration and likely the spot. He is however beyond a shadow of a doubt easily one of the worst 5-10 draft picks of all time. Has nothing to do with being a Panthers fan or not. It's also worth noting the fact that the Panthers have given him 40 games skews things to a degree as well. He's been given way way more opportunities than other busts have to soften the blow and stat pad. That must also be acknowledged.

[BEASTfromdaEAST]

Only thing making this tolerable is that our idiot of an owner is the laughing stock of the NFL owners.

Everytime Tepper is seen in Charlotte someone should hoof him right in the nuts. Guy is a joke literally one of the worst owners in NFL history at this point.

I implore everyone on this board STOP GIVING PANTHERS YOUR MONEY! 

Stop buying tickets, stop buying jerseys, stop buying anything that will give him the power of your wallet. He don't deserve it wake up!

[mrcompletely11]

1 hour ago, rodeo said:

Exactly. Biggest Panthers bust, easily. But if people are saying NFL overall he's not top 10.

How could one reasonably argue this?