Dave’s Double-Speak Says It All

[TylerDurden]

“We’ll call more plays when we see more success” regarding explosive passing plays.

He’s basically saying we won’t call them because we can’t execute them.  It’s one of the most creatively nebulous-sounding indictments I’ve ever heard, but an indictment nonetheless.  Almost like it’s daring Bryce, and he still won’t do it.

 

I mentioned in another thread how one play yesterday, Bryce rolled out and held the ball forever.  If I were venture to say, I’m guessing that play lasted upwards of 5 seconds, EASY.  He just kept holding it and kept looking.  And then he’d look like he was gonna throw it, then pull it back down, look again, pull it back down, look again, then finally grounded it in front of the nearest WR.  These were the type of plays Bryce thrived on in college.  Now, most of them he doesn’t even attempt because those fuging lofty ass cans of corn ain’t cutting it and he knows they’re likely to get picked.  Point being, we’re leaving so many plays out on the field and it begins and ends with Bryce’s inability and unwillingness to pull the trigger.  In that same thread, someone brought up Jake and how many present fans never saw him play.  But think back to other great Panthers QBs as well, Cam being the greatest and a singular generational talent that will never be replicated, but even Steve Beurelein (sp?), he’ll, even Matt Moore in his short tenure.  What did these guys do that Bryce just won’t - give his guys a fuging chance to make plays.  And the most obvious samples are the lack of high-pointers and back shoulder fades, but even in simple poo like all the crossing routes that people are ragging on Tet and XL for.  The passes are so poorly placed, he’s not giving them a chance to just catch it and run.  They have to fuging stop, contort their body, etc.

in another thread, we were discussing Mike White and Hendon Hooker.  You can name off any number of other guys currently available as well as a slew of ones we could’ve had in the offseason, and every single one of them would do what Bryce refuses to - give their guys a fuging chance to make plays.  That’s what is so fuging frustrating about him beyond the obvious.

[Aussie Tank]

Plus the WRs cant beat thier man or create on scramble drills 

[L-TownCat]

4 minutes ago, Aussie Tank said:

Plus the WRs cant beat thier man or create on scramble drills 

What do you mean?  If they go any deeper than 15 yards Bryce can’t/won’t throw it and even if he does it takes 3 business days to get there and it’s still off the mark.

Dont even try to blame the receivers just don’t.

[OneBadCat]

He had Coker open coming across the field several times and he didn't hit him.

[Candler Cat]

1 minute ago, OneBadCat said:

He had Coker open coming across the field several times and he didn't hit him.

on the missed completion to XL in the EZ, had his guy beat

[TylerDurden]

13 minutes ago, Aussie Tank said:

Plus the WRs cant beat thier man or create on scramble drills 

Yeah, the window to get it to them is compressed to 20 yards vertically.  Even if they beat their man 25 yards downfield and Bryce actually sees it, he’s not gonna throw it.

[electro's horse]

2 minutes ago, OneBadCat said:

He had Coker open coming across the field several times and he didn't hit him.

he's not looking to Coker. Remember, bryce is one of the worst in the NFL after his first read. Coker is going to be wasted in this offense right now. 

Which sucks because I think he's basically baby Anquan Boldin and they just need to send him on posts/seams every play and let him bully defenders. 

[Waldo]

Dave keeping a broken Dalton around tells me it's a poo show anyways. It's just more noise from Dave

[CRA]

14 minutes ago, Aussie Tank said:

Plus the WRs cant beat thier man or create on scramble drills 

I do not believe this is true at all.   

Bryce scrambling means no proper base.  Means his weak arm is at it's weakest.  Which means downfield throws are even more risky for him.  

as the OP says, you can see the deep calls.  Bryce normally has time.  Holds.  Scrambles or checks down.  The balls Bryce Young will throw downfield are generally when the call has something on the sideline.  And Bryce makes these throws super hard on WRs.  They generally are turned into jump balls 90% of the time when that's not what the throw asks for.   I think the only deep ball he is comfortable attempting is when he can borderline push the ball out of bounds if the WR doesn't' get it. 

[Jmac]

5 minutes ago, OneBadCat said:

He had Coker open coming across the field several times and he didn't hit him.

Can't see them.....needs a step stool to see over the line

[3838]

1 minute ago, Jmac said:

Can't see them.....needs a step stool to see over the line

Mike White is listed as 6"5.

[Bear Hands]

The way everyone keeps referencing this week at practice makes me feel like something happened.  

Wonder if there's a player v player beef going on or something.  

[Jmac]

Just now, 3838 said:

Mike White is listed as 6"5.

Taller then most lineman...bring him back and play him. Fug Tepper and his little boy 

[electro's horse]

mike white is also apparently a colossal asshole no one can stand and a total locker room cancer. I remember that from his Jets days when he was outplaying zach wilson and was pretty toxic about it.  

Can't imagine that flies in Dave Canales' Jesus Camp