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strato Grand Master

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15 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

You have pretty high standards for a fan of a franchise that hasn't had a winning record in nearly a decade.

Dude is winning with a team in full rebuild mode with a traffic cone at QB.

 

I have been really easy on Canales. Refused to criticize anything in his first year. Knowing he wasn’t ready. 
Been very soft on him this year, knowing he still isn’t ready. Knowing how huge the job he is trying to do is even for an experienced guy.

 A lot to learn all at once. Play caller, one year as OC and here he is in the fire… and then on top of everything else he is saddled with Young. 

But he has done some very counter productive stuff. At this point he is only staying because I highly value continuity. We have some young players who are coming along and some things about the team are coming along. 
 

I am not really a pro Canales guy so much as a pragmatist at this point. Could go either way and would not care if he is gone as long as Bryce is gone too. 

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3 minutes ago, strato said:

 

I have been really easy on Canales. Refused to criticize anything in his first year. Knowing he wasn’t ready. 
Been very soft on him this year, knowing he still isn’t ready. Knowing how huge the job he is trying to do is even for an experienced guy.

 A lot to learn all at once. Play caller, one year as OC and here he is in the fire… and then on top of everything else he is saddled with Young. 

But he has done some very counter productive stuff. At this point he is only staying because I highly value continuity. We have some young players who are coming along and some things about the team are coming along. 
 

I am not really a pro Canales guy so much as a pragmatist at this point. Could go either way and would not care if he is gone as long as Bryce is gone too. 

I mean you look at the guy Tepper wanted, Ben Johnson, and it's clear he's probably a better HC.

That said, he's not working with a cardboard cut out at QB. The Bears are more talented than we are (a large part of that is thanks to Fitterer). It's going to take time. I'm happy to take my lumps with Canales while we rebuild a roster and regain some goddamn pride. He's not a bad HC.

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5 hours ago, Kentucky Panther said:

I really don’t know how people expect Canales to succeed with the fifth grader he has starting behind center every week. I hope he gets a chance with a really quarterback next year. It will be a much more fair assessment. 

I really don't know how people make excuses for Canales given that we all know how bad Bryce is while having two starting caliber RBs and yet Canales still calls 33 passes and 9 runs. Canales lost us the game by putting the game in the hands of a losing QB. 

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29 minutes ago, beckersteen said:

I really don't know how people make excuses for Canales given that we all know how bad Bryce is while having two starting caliber RBs and yet Canales still calls 33 passes and 9 runs. Canales lost us the game by putting the game in the hands of a losing QB. 

Maybe he wants to make it more obvious to the world on a national stage that Bryce sucks

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2 hours ago, electro's horse said:

Miami and Dallas have the worst defenses in the league.

Packers game plan managed 16 points and won on a fluke.

they’re not a good offense. 

what offense do you suggest we run then?

besides those three games and the two falcon games, our entire offense has looked pedestrian all season long

canales didnt even try to run the ball last night with only 9 carries between rico and chuba

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4 minutes ago, Dave Gettleman's Shorts said:

what offense do you suggest we run then?

besides those three games and the two falcon games, our entire offense has looked pedestrian all season long

canales didnt even try to run the ball last night with only 9 carries between rico and chuba

With the options available a play action under center run first with Dalton at qb. Bryce jsut can’t make the throws you need to be able to to punish defenses for stacking the box.

for example his TD pass last night is his best throw, and has been since Canales came in. he drops back, puts his foot in the ground (double clutched for no reason but he was very unsettled last night) and throws it to the back boundary. 

However, he only throws it from the 20 to the back of the endzone because there’s no safety there in that situation. Bryce really struggles identifying safeties, and I bet he does the same in practice.

you need to be able to hit that seam go route and an out route if teams are going to stack the box. None of us want Bryce to throw a ten yard out to the sideline.

i think the panthers could sneak into the playoffs but they’re gonna have to bench Bryce.

it might not matter if Jaycee is out for a while. 

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2 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

Not me. I want his ass gone too. He's is solely responsible for the loss last night. 

We get rid of him who is going to  want to come to this sht show...nobody reputable, thats why we have his azz. I'm not exactly enamored with him but players have to play and execute.... if they can't thats a talent problem.

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18 minutes ago, Johnstonny said:

We get rid of him who is going to  want to come to this sht show...nobody reputable, thats why we have his azz. I'm not exactly enamored with him but players have to play and execute.... if they can't thats a talent problem.

I find the idea that Canales is the best we could do, valid. 
A lot of the reason for that is Bryce. You have to be desperate to accept that situation. 
 

Remove Bryce and dangle the opportunity to bring your own QB in, I think the candidate field expands. 
 

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I’m out on canales, this is like the 3rd or 5th game where it’s clear to run the ball and put it in our best players hands and he goes full pass game extraordinaire 

Seems like he’s confused on wether to trust young or not, before the half we’re burning clock with 3 timeouts and a chance to get in fg range, constantly chasing points for no reason, these are bad mistakes by a hc, you get in games that matter and these mistakes are glaring, like they have been 

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7 minutes ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

I’m out on canales, this is like the 3rd or 5th game where it’s clear to run the ball and put it in our best players hands and he goes full pass game extraordinaire 

Seems like he’s confused on wether to trust young or not, before the half we’re burning clock with 3 timeouts and a chance to get in fg range, constantly chasing points for no reason, these are bad mistakes by a hc, you get in games that matter and these mistakes are glaring, like they have been 

Dude is screwed.  Go all Steve Wilks and win a couple more games in spite of Bryce……the org is going to keep him tied to Bryce.   You got to at some point just call games as they should even if it means losing to get rid of Bryce IMO

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