so yea... the um Saints.... how do we beat them this time?

[ProcessBlue2]

I do wonder how they would react if we just came out with our 4 wide set and spread them out like Atlanta. 

[CRA]

13 hours ago, Basbear said:

Its too easy to blame BY and we all know this....(even if its 100% true)

 

I don't feel the iants have the blueprint on BY. Panthers just were not ready- CB biltzs are super risky and thought of as to only use like once a game. I know you watched lots of football this year, any other team you recall having their CB/safety blitz nearly every other play?? Its sort of all-in play used for those "surprise" 3rd down calls. Panthers will have solutions this time or repeat the history......I honestly think DC just never practiced plays against that edge pressure, give the saints coaches all the credit. That took BIG BALLS and it worked great given BY folded under that pressure. It even stopped the running game, unblocked missle safety or willing CB tackler, Rico was neutralized too. This time Chubba is healthy and OL should be better too. Tremble and Evans have bigger responsibilities this week too....

 

I forgot to add, that dang stadium can not get rockin.....I hope they have hand signals on point too. 

I mean, if you look at Bryce’s history vs the Saints it’s some of his worst stuff.  But it’s been across multiple staffs so who knows. 

but yeah, you are right to point out the blitz packages the Saints ran were unique.  IMO they really served 2 functions….

1.  They were baiting Bryce.  His early pick that was wiped for a late roughing the passer.  They sent a blitz and if I recall right he essentially threw to that WR and coverage came from elsewhere.  The other pick was the fake blitz where the fake blitzer went out and got the INT likely because Bryce can’t see over the G,T…..

2.  On a lot of plays it also seemed like the actual blitzer was playing his predictable rolls out of the pocket to buy time when he doesn’t throw in rhythm.  He always spins to the same side and generally that’s where the blitz was coming. 

it was a solid plan that worked.  Not sure it’s repeatable.  I mean, if Canales can’t beat it and they roll that out twice that’s bad on him 

but you are 100% right on Renfrow in theory makes a lot of sense but Bryce has negative chemistry with him and can’t put but the ball on him when wide open 

[strato]

I find it shameful that Renfro came back to play and wanted it to be with us and he has been nothinged/nobodied all season. 
He knows how to get open. 

Edited 12 hours ago by strato

[pantherclaw]

Starts and ends with execution.  

[rodeo]

The last time we played them wasn't Canales was doing the cutesy 1 series per RB thing instead of rotating and going with the hot hand?

[mav1234]

18 minutes ago, rodeo said:

The last time we played them wasn't Canales was doing the cutesy 1 series per RB thing instead of rotating and going with the hot hand?

No, they bottled up our run game and Bryce couldn't execute down field

Edit: Rico had 18 carries for 50 yards. 

Edited 9 hours ago by mav1234

[CRA]

9 hours ago, strato said:

I find it shameful that Renfro came back to play and wanted it to be with us and he has been nothinged/nobodied all season. 
He knows how to get open. 

I mean, as a Renfrow guy I would like to see him. 

BUT, Renfrow serves no purpose outside of this year.  Is he a better WR than Horn today at actually playing? Easily.  But Bryce Young's ball placement is bad (the tiny WR seems to really highlight that) and Renfrow's best game is really carving up areas of the field Bryce Young can't see well.  

The argument that developing Jimmy Horn makes more sense but they aren't developing him.  They seemed to quit that the week he got activated lol and he runs the same 3 plays on repeat (which is good for about 2 weeks in the NFL). 

I think we saw enough to know Renfrow still has it and if paired with a surgical quick game he would have had a nice role somewhere (but that ain't us).  

[CPcavedweller]

21 hours ago, TheBigKat said:

so usually the team with the most points wins the game?

Unless it’s college football. Then a committee decides if the score was important or if how the game went was more important. Then, in the final weekend, they completely flip how they viewed it for weeks on end. Then expect people not to get upset!

[d-dave]

 How do the Panthers win Sunday?

Playing disciplined D.  Shough can run.  He can also find open guys.  So our team is going to have to play really well and disciplined.  We're also going to have to hit him and move him around.

We're going to have to run the ball.  That goes without saying.  It's our identity.  If the zone looks aren't working, then we need to go down hill battering ram to finish this game.

We can't turn the ball over.  As we've seen, when we give up the ball early and often, we loose.  

Finally - which Bryce do we get?  Do we get the guy who is ready to kick butt?  Or the guy scared of his shadow.   What's the vibe going to be?  Does he give up the football?  Or does he make some great throws with it?

As Canales has stated, you don't get much better than "Guys, if we keep winning, we win the division and host a playoff game."  The guys have to know, and they are going to have to play their best football.  So this game is a test.  How ready are they?  Are they good enough to take care of business?  Or will the whole thing fall apart again?

I'm not sure how I feel personally.  I want my team to do well.  You never know with a "dead" team like the Saints who would be more than happy to play spoiler to our ambitions of winning a Division Title.  I'd love for us to win, but I also wouldn't be surprised if we blow it and get blown out.

[Growl]

saints will be starting a guy they just signed off their practice squad at RT for this game.

 

never like to see injuries but hopefully this is an opportunity for Scourton to make some splash plays. 

[CRA]

Saints are the polar opposite of the Falcons when it comes to Bryce Young.  It just is what it is at this point.  One team brings out the best variant of Bryce and one brings out the worst. 

Saints D is also really rolling of late.  Top 5 in EPA of the last month (actually to top 2).  And are very much having a a similar defensive rebound off last year like the Panthers.  

One QB will lose this game for their team IMO more so than the other can win it.