Chink in Jaycee Horns armor/Achilles heel

[micnificent28]

I will never not think the guy is an elite corner possibly the best corner we have ever had. He is for the most part lock down with some of the best hands I have seen at corner. Now this is just me and the ole eye ball test, you line him up vs big and fast corners he's good. You line him up vs 4.3 elite all world speed he struggles greatly in that area. 

Olave has made him look bad in both matchups and off the top of my head I think he had a bad rep against the jets.. overall tho he can't be beat deep if you run faster than a 4.4.

[CRA]

I think Horn really just had one really bad play Sunday.  But that's sort of what you pay him for.....that one man on man play at the goal vs Olave.  That's supposed to be Horn's strength.  Being able to play man over zone. 

I still think Horn lacks the one season that actually proves he is what we think he is. 

[Khyber53]

7 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

I will never not think the guy is an elite corner possibly the best corner we have ever had. He is for the most part lock down with some of the best hands I have seen at corner. Now this is just me and the ole eye ball test, you line him up vs big and fast corners he's good. You line him up vs 4.3 elite all world speed he struggles greatly in that area. 

Olave has made him look bad in both matchups and off the top of my head I think he had a bad rep against the jets.. overall tho he can't be beat deep if you run faster than a 4.4.

There may very well be a point here. And that should be part of our scouting and scheming. I wonder how Jackson does against speed vs height as well.

And then have Moerhig (sp???) double up on the speedster for some hard hits. Nothing slows up a speedster like a couple of hard tackles.

 

[micnificent28]

Not that any corner wouldn't struggle with this kind of speed, but it's the only time I'm slightly asking myself is horn okay when thrown at.

[CanadianCat]

Im not going to blame JC. He ALMOST intercepted the ball on that play as well.

He is one of the best DB's we have ever had. I would like to see him shadow their best WR more often but thats a scheme thing thats not on him. 

I trust him in the biggest moments.  

[PantherChris]

1 hour ago, CRA said:

I think Horn really just had one really bad play Sunday.  But that's sort of what you pay him for.....that one man on man play at the goal vs Olave.  That's supposed to be Horn's strength.  Being able to play man over zone. 

I still think Horn lacks the one season that actually proves he is what we think he is. 

I think hes been fantastic with the pass rush hes been paired with.... if we had even a league average pass rush he doesnt give up a lot of the plays he has.

[Dave Gettleman's Shorts]

don't let this distract you from Evero calling a red zone 7 man, 0 coverage blitz against 6 blockers and failing to get pressure on Olave's TD

[PleaseCutStewart]

1 hour ago, micnificent28 said:

I will never not think the guy is an elite corner possibly the best corner we have ever had. He is for the most part lock down with some of the best hands I have seen at corner. Now this is just me and the ole eye ball test, you line him up vs big and fast corners he's good. You line him up vs 4.3 elite all world speed he struggles greatly in that area. 

Olave has made him look bad in both matchups and off the top of my head I think he had a bad rep against the jets.. overall tho he can't be beat deep if you run faster than a 4.4.

I'm pretty sure any corner that is thrown on an island against a 4.3 elite speed receiver will struggle. And it's hard to say who is responsible for what when we run zone what feels like 90% of the game.

 

[Jay Roosevelt]

Even the best corners usually have one receiver that gives them trouble. I remember Bills WR Stevie Johnson used to give Darrelle Revis fits even in his prime.

[Mr Mojo Risin]

Yea i mean even the best corners get beat from time to time. Jaycee when healthy has never been able to play with a good pass rush. That's gotta be one of the top priorities next year

[Jackson113.2]

I was asking why is there a Chinese guy dressed in Horns armor,  and why is OP so racist.....       just kidding... just kidding..

[CBDellinger]

DB might be the hardest position to play on a football field next to QB.

[Navy_football]

18 minutes ago, CBDellinger said:

DB might be the hardest position to play on a football field next to QB.

Definitely the loneliest. There's no one to bail you out when you're in cover 0. 

[CBDellinger]

Cover 0 is a tough ask when there is no immediate pressure.  a good wr should win that more than not.