Give Legette another season?

[SCMunnerlyn1]

3 hours ago, CRA said:

Is that really true anymore for QBs or WRs?  With the way offense is today, the window seem to of shrunk.  Do WRs or QBs really not show themselves earlier now than the prior era? 
 

how many QBs or WRs stunk in the recent era their first 2 years with opportunity….and proved folks wrong later. 

We definitely have a QB problem in the league. They're not being developed anymore. Brady and a few others have alluded to this. They come from all these 1-2 read offenses. 

 

Potentially receivers are the same coming up with 1/3 of a route tree. No idea when to sit in the zone.  I think one thing that could help some is bringing the 2 ft in bounds rule to college. 

[Jackie Lee]

At this point I think we're better off with T-mac/Coker/DMoore/Jimmy if we're actually trying to make the playoffs. It's actually kind of a shame they didn't give Jimmy Horn more looks downfield this season instead of limiting him to those jet sweeps every time he gets called in. It's too late to experiment at this point unless we win Sunday and the Bucs lose 

[45catfan]

Draft a WR this year when the value is there. Obvious not i the first round because we need a defensive stud with that pick, but productive WRs can be found in just about any round.  Make XL earn his keep; just don't trot him out there and hope he develops.  Have a talented, hungry rookie breathing down his neck.  At best we would be four deep at WR and at worse we can cut/trade XL and already have his replacement.

[MHS831]

1 hour ago, 45catfan said:

Draft a WR this year when the value is there. Obvious not i the first round because we need a defensive stud with that pick, but productive WRs can be found in just about any round.  Make XL earn his keep; just don't trot him out there and hope he develops.  Have a talented, hungry rookie breathing down his neck.  At best we would be four deep at WR and at worse we can cut/trade XL and already have his replacement.

Yes.  If I am not mistaken, we need to sign Coker to the ERFA tender and insist that XL spends his spring and summer at a WR camp and not Coon huntin on his four wheeler.  XL was raw when we picked him--which is why I wanted to go another direction--and we are seeing how raw.  He is basically learning a position.  
 

The Panthers will make their move in 2026 to be an NFL powerhouse behind Bryce.  Bryce needs intelligent WRs who catch the ball.  That said, we need a solid #2 to challenge XL and make cutting him easy, if necessary.  A #2 WR (intented to be a #1 by now) with under 400 yards is embarrassing.  

On offense, you have to ask, "Where can we get better?"  In my view, #2 WR, TE (although they are improving) and maybe C (again, if we re-sign Mays, he is trending up and at 26, entering his prime--I say stay with him and find competition later in the draft (not good for C).  OL depth maybe?  In other words, XL is a glaring weak spot.  

 

[kungfoodude]

1 hour ago, MHS831 said:

Yes.  If I am not mistaken, we need to sign Coker to the ERFA tender and insist that XL spends his spring and summer at a WR camp and not Coon huntin on his four wheeler.  XL was raw when we picked him--which is why I wanted to go another direction--and we are seeing how raw.  He is basically learning a position.  
 

The Panthers will make their move in 2026 to be an NFL powerhouse behind Bryce.  Bryce needs intelligent WRs who catch the ball.  That said, we need a solid #2 to challenge XL and make cutting him easy, if necessary.  A #2 WR (intented to be a #1 by now) with under 400 yards is embarrassing.  

On offense, you have to ask, "Where can we get better?"  In my view, #2 WR, TE (although they are improving) and maybe C (again, if we re-sign Mays, he is trending up and at 26, entering his prime--I say stay with him and find competition later in the draft (not good for C).  OL depth maybe?  In other words, XL is a glaring weak spot.  

 

At this point, it is criminal to go into the 2026 training camp/OTA's with XL penciled in as a #2 WR. The team must upgrade, either through free agency or the draft. If he cannot give 100% effort on significantly less snaps as a #4-6 WR(players like Tremayne have done that consistently) then I don't think you have a player worth rostering beyond the trade deadline.

Offensively, we eventually have to upgrade to an NFL starting caliber C. It's been almost the length of time from Gross to Ikey since Kalil retired and we have below average to terrible C play. Love Mays as a BC-esque utility backup but he will never be an above average long term starting C. 

The TE room is one of the worst in the NFL but it's a low usage position in this offense, so the investments are likely to be small, if any. I would never expect to see an elite TE in a Dave Canales offense.

100% agree on OL depth. We actually aren't bad there but BC will be gone, Mays is a UFA, Corbett is a UFA and Zavala has been both injured and bad. We have to bolster that depth again or resign guys like Mays and Corbett to keep that depth somewhat stable.

[Chaos]

On 12/23/2025 at 7:58 PM, Waldo said:

I would take a 3rd and never look back. The WRs around that pick are more likely to produce more than XL ever will. 

Yep.  We got a UDFA running circles around him

[SOJA]

100% yes. we knew when we drafted him he was going to be a project. Year 3 is a big year for a lot of young players

[Paa Langfart]

On 12/23/2025 at 8:08 PM, SmokinwithWilly said:

Ted Ginn with worse hands

lol.

[LinvilleGorge]

15 hours ago, SCMunnerlyn1 said:

We definitely have a QB problem in the league. They're not being developed anymore. Brady and a few others have alluded to this. They come from all these 1-2 read offenses. 

 

Potentially receivers are the same coming up with 1/3 of a route tree. No idea when to sit in the zone.  I think one thing that could help some is bringing the 2 ft in bounds rule to college. 

Everyone wants to blame the college game for this but it's every bit as much to blame on the NFL. Every team is focusing on getting the ball put as fast as possible on most passing plays. That essentially means a one or two read offense. True old school classic full field NFL read passing plays are a rarity in today's league. The modern NFL offense looks a lit more like a classic "college offense" than it does a classic "pro style" offense.

[SmokinwithWilly]

2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Everyone wants to blame the college game for this but it's every bit as much to blame on the NFL. Every team is focusing on getting the ball put as fast as possible on most passing plays. That essentially means a one or two read offense. True old school classic full field NFL read passing plays are a rarity in today's league. The modern NFL offense looks a lit more like a classic "college offense" than it does a classic "pro style" offense.

I think NIL is going to continue to make this worse. It's the new lottery ticket. 4 years to make as much money as possible so stats matter more than developing. The NFL isn't the guaranteed payday compared to NIL now. Handing a young man in his late teens early 20s hundreds of 1000s of dollars, what could possibly go wrong. I just keep seeing little Johnny Manzels on the horizon.