Wild Card QB Performance Rankings

[electro's horse]

11 minutes ago, frankw said:

Fapping over QBR when our offense couldn't complete one single pass in 4 downs in our own stadium with 3 timeouts certainly fits with the just happy to be here vibe.

if you look at the schedule next season that's probably going to be the high water mark for Bryce and Canales. 

[Sup]

1 hour ago, thebdawg said:

Passer rating is genuinely the worst way to measure performance. It weighs completion % insanely heavy.

Cam’s career passer rating is 85. What does that tell you about him as a passer?

Absolutely nothing. It’s a garbage stat.

He wasn't all that great as a passer. He was dominant because he was an elite runner and a good passer.

I wouldn't care that Bryce isn't a good passer if he could run like Cam.

[Castavar]

1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

He has been one of the worst starters in the nfl for the past 3 years, he is not better than he is given credit for.  You are seeing what you want to see and making up things to justify it

Not just past 3 years, he's been one of the worst starters IN NFL HISTORY. 

Edited January 15 by Castavar

[dep]

1 hour ago, thebdawg said:

His shtick, the I hate Bryce shtick. We have a small number of fans in the stands screaming how bad our qb sucks when he misses a pass, while the rest of us are having a great time supporting our team in the playoffs.

You don’t go scream about how poo you think your quarterback is in a stadium full of fans cheering for the team and him. It’s fuging weird.

Im far from a Bryce defender but anyone doing that needs to leave lol

[Castavar]

1 hour ago, PleaseCutStewart said:

I think it was one of his better games this year. The problem with Bryce isn't his performance in the playoff game, it's the many other games during the regular season that he looked embarrassingly bad...

Exactly. Bryce by no means played bad at all. But his "great" day wasn't even better than Stafford who did nothing for like 1 and a half quarters. Not only that, if our end goal is a superbowl, he's going to have to play good for 4 weeks straight..............when he hasn't even gone a month with consistent play since entering the league. 

[cranky]

2 hours ago, fanpanther said:

interesting enough his qbr was basically the same the first 8 games he played and the last 8 games.  i believe like 22nd in the total nfl. 

Not even sure what qbr is. Goeff has the 3rd highest QB rating at around 115 but has the 18th worse qbr rating at 57. Sam Darnold is even worse at 56. Hell, it qbr ranks Spencer Rattler as a better QB than Shough (24th and 25th respectively). Something seriously does not add up.

For what it is worth, 4 of the first six teams the Panthers played had defenses ranked 26th through 32nd while 4 of the last 6 teams they played were ranked in the top 10 in defense. So they played tougher defenses and had higher completion percentages, higher yrds/rec, higher TD % and lower int %. Not sure how you can improve in all those areas against better teams and have the same qbr. Odd.

https://sumersports.com/teams/defensive/

Edited January 15 by cranky

[Navy_football]

Final Drive:

First play Bryce misses an open Jimmy Horn in the middle of the field. It would have easily moved the sticks and taken very little time off the clock. He was probably the only WR open on that play, but it's right in front of you. Gotta see that one. And Jimmy has the fresh legs on that drive. 

Second play there was potential but the protection broke down before guys even got to the top of their routes. WRs really gave up on the play in the scramble drill though. I think Coker and TMac were exhausted. 

On the 3rd play that was a perfectly thrown ball to Jimmy Horn. The defender has an obvious pass interference at the top of the route to knock him off path. If that contact doesn't happen, that would have been a big play. It drops perfectly in his hands similar to the TD pass to Coker. And they were in man, so he would have had room to run. Refs missed that one. You could even see the defender kind of waiting for the flag that never came. He knew it too. 

The last play was 100% on Jimmy. You see him actually set up to catch the ball out in front with his hands. Little shuffle in there to time it just like he wanted it. Could have just come back to the ball, as there was very little zip on that pass. I think Bryce kind of aimed it instead of just letting it rip and it died on him downfield. Or as others suggested just slide and body catch it to make sure you don't miss it. He's young and hadn't caught a pass all game. Probably would have been better if Coker was in that spot. 

This is just a young team. I really think they'll be fine next season. Jimmy can be that guy. He gets separation on crossing routes every time. Guys just can't keep up with him. Gain a little trust and chemistry with Young and he can get in the offense. Not real hopeful for XL. Come on dude. We're counting on you. 

[T-Wazzle]

we lost.

[Tr3ach]

2 hours ago, frankw said:

Fapping over QBR when our offense couldn't complete one single pass in 4 downs in our own stadium with 3 timeouts certainly fits with the just happy to be here vibe.

One was definitely a drop and also a completion in 3 downs takes multiple players, not just qb.

[PadresPanthersFan]

Having watched all the games I dont care about qbr but using the eye test stroud, herbert and rodgers all completely pooed the bed. Rodgers and herbert were the main reasons they lost. Stroud should have cost his team the win. 

Bryce played really well and he was not the reason we lost. What he needs is consistency.  His highs are impressive.  But his lows are abysmal.  

Hes shown what he can do. But now he needs to do it way more often

[strato]

This drop thing… really debatable. Depends on your perspective. That last ball was a tough catch that didn’t get caught. I don’t know that I would call it all on Horn as if it hit him perfectly and he blew it. 

[outlaw4]

I'm still mystified on how Stroud looked so overwhelmed at times in his playoff game. Pure speculation but maybe the concussion is still affecting him somewhat. Similar with how Horn seemingly has been playing worse since coming back from his concussion.

Rodgers... really interested to see how Maye fares. 

Edited January 15 by outlaw4

[GoobyPls]

If Young and Stafford switched team last Saturday the rams blow us out. Stafford struggled vs our non existent pass rush, Bryce actually played well with the amount of pressure he was facing. The handful of times we pressured Stafford he was erratic.

 

And how Stroud is not dead last is beyond me, the only reason the game was close till the 4th Q was cause of Stroud, and the Steelers defense isn’t good.

[amcoolio]

7 hours ago, PootieNunu said:

Which one of these QBs would you not immediately trade Bryce for if given the chance? how about that spin? Not including Rodgers of course.

I'll bite. I wouldn't trade Bryce for Lawrence, there is just something fundamentally broken with that guy and we would be pulling our hair out just as much if not more if Trevor was our QB. I'd rather just hope and pray with Bryce. And despite the SB MVP, I would not trade him for Hurts becuase I think Hurts cannot pass at all anymore and his career is about to crater. Stroud is a toss up, he looks broken too, gets off to very slow starts, and isn't nearly as clutch as Bryce but I would probably take Stroud becuase of his arm and size and age. Nix would be the next hesitation. But the rest are clearly better, though Stafford only has 1 or 2 good seasons left