I wake up this morning full of rage towards Ronald McDonald Rivera / Gettleman / Hurney

[Jackson113.2]

2 minutes ago, Manna said:

Team sport. Ron rode Cam and Luke, didn’t really build the team well..especially around Cam. 

Yeah and rode the poo out of CMC in his final years as coach 

[chbright]

2015 with a mid level coach + OC and we are sb champs. Everyone wants to bang on the LT that game. Well, it was the RT flailing around out there, Remmers did what he could on his own. Shula went full retard all game. Denver knew the plays as we were stale as hell and even though the run game was imaginative to a degree (effective as hell with Ginn and Cam plus rbs) it was countered. they really had a number on what were doing every before every and it wasn't some spy thing, it was predictability. That's more what made that game a coaching failure than players failure. The brain trust on O sucked, and Ron had no ideas how to fix it his time here or later stops. 

 

Ron road MVPs, OPOY, DPOY, CPOY, and a lot of great players to get those awards. He's a DC that's it and marginal there too (bears teams before him were loaded, same in SD).

[UnluckyforSome]

On 2/7/2026 at 8:54 AM, MHS831 said:

To the OP's credit, Ron Rivera, imo, used Cam at times like a fullback.  The fact that he never had back-to-back winning seasons with a stud QB says a lot.  The OL was an afterthought.  Cam saved RR's job many times.  RR was NFC coach of the year twice during that time, but he never earned it.  I wish we had kept Fox.  He got it.  Never had a great QB and won more.

If 2003-2005 Fox could've stuck around in perpetuity, sure. End of the line Fox, no thanks. Both sides were just beyond done and fed up.

[Panthera onca]

Deep, meaningless thoughts from big kitty. Any random emotion becomes a new thread on here.

[strato]

5 hours ago, UnluckyforSome said:

If 2003-2005 Fox could've stuck around in perpetuity, sure. End of the line Fox, no thanks. Both sides were just beyond done and fed up.

I lost most of the respect I had for Fox in 2010. He should have resigned if he hated the job that much. Instead he stuck for his paycheck and let stuff go to hell. 
 

I burned out on Ron too but my deal breaker issue with him was away from football and after he was gone from the Panthers. He may have been out of his depth but never quit on us. 

[DeAngelo Beason]

Luke and Cam were both victims of a team that utterly disregarded investing in an offense.  Kuechly had to play with his hair on fire nonstop because the offense couldn't put up points.  Our time of possession was right around 30 minutes on average, which was the lower middle of the pack for that era, and really bad for a team that was supposedly built for ball control.  Kuechly had some hard miles racked up on him as a result, and it cut his career short.  

They consistently failed to invest in Cam Newton.  It wasn't until he was already battered and beaten that they decided to start drafting weapons for him.  He would still be the QB of this team had it not been for the leadership hanging him out to dry immediately after drafting him.  We fielded one of the most pathetic OL groups and receiving corps in the game for almost a decade.  Cam Newton was genuinely a force of nature to have achieved what he did with that offensive roster.  

In short, two of the very best (possibly THE two best) players in franchise history were victims of a draft strategy that blindly focused on defense (with several very bad misses), and tried to patchwork the offense year after year.  If we'd simply invested a bit in the offensive line I believe the core we had could have competed for and won a championship or two.

[Gapanthersfan]

Historically elite defense led by Wade Phillips vs Mike Shula. regardless of any Shula adjustment, Wade was going to play 4D chess. Mike Shula is not going to out scheme Wade Phillips. Mike could only hold a job for 2-3 years with every team he worked for… except the Panthers. We were blessed with 6 years of his guidance.

When it comes to coaching, we still can’t have nice things.