Jameis Winston's football IQ compared to Peyton Manning's, report says.

[Snake]

This dude is what everyone wanted Cam to be. Keep buying the hype, this guy might make some plays but without the right coach he is going to be in trouble again at some point. Not that really matters in TB though.

[Mol3m4n]

Foles played out of his mind last season...what would be the thinking in going in a different direction.

Lmao. You must have not watched the Eagles one time this year. Foles was horrible.

[L-TownCat]

you can't possibly believe this.

a wise man once noted that a language is a dialect with an army and a navy. this is a perspective that suggests that there is no "pure" or "proper" english against which all other ways of speaking (like black talk) are "dialects," but rather that those in power endorse a certain way of speaking as "proper." because this so-called proper way of speaking is bound in the power of those that make it so, it means that historically those who've held the power over language have held the power over other cultural ways of being, which doesn't necessarily exclude others, but certainly creates some dynamics like ones that pop up in sports today.

the whole "wow that sure is an articulate black guy" trope is a prime example. calling a black guy articulate is often meant as a compliment from a genuinely admiring heart, but it's grounded in the idea that most black people aren't articulate, and further that african-american english itself is not articulate. it is articulate, if you understand african-american english, and is bound by strict grammatical rules the same way as so-called standard english.

how people appropriate language and intelligence (despite meaning well, i'm sure) is a lens into race and power relations in current society, and the NFL is a nifty microcosm of a larger ongoing social dialogue. i understand you don't want these things cluttering the football forum, but i think we do ourselves a disservice if we sanitize what should be an irreducible component of the sociality of football.

Why make the job of keeping this place on topic harder?

You've been around long enough.

Give that massive brain a rest for a min and let Igo do it his way.

House rules.

[biglebowski]

The Crab Leg comments are kind of funny to read coming from the fans of the Laptop QB.

[Mr. Scot]

And here...we.......go

[TheNewStandard]

Lmao. You must have not watched the Eagles one time this year. Foles was horrible.

I meant 2013-14 Foles was very good

[Delhommey]

Guys, on the field Jameis Winston is probably the best QB to suit up in a Noles uniform and possibly the best to ever play in the ACC. That being said, he's a dick. A goofy, weird dick, but a dick none-the-less.

 

This guy already understands coverages on an NFL level and can make any throw in the playbook. If he keeps his head on straight and avoids serious injury, he will be a HOF'er. That, however, is a big if.

[Mol3m4n]

Guys, on the field Jameis Winston is probably the best QB to suit up in a Noles uniform and possibly the best to ever play in the ACC. That being said, he's a dick. A goofy, weird dick, but a dick none-the-less.

This guy already understands coverages on an NFL level and can make any throw in the playbook. If he keeps his head on straight and avoids serious injury, he will be a HOF'er. That, however, is a big if.

[PhillyB]

Why make the job of keeping this place on topic harder?

You've been around long enough.

Give that massive brain a rest for a min and let Igo do it his way.

House rules.

 

like i said, i get it. there are a lot of politics involved in running a board that in many ways acts as a democracy in terms of what kind of content is considered acceptable. as an owner you want to step on as few toes as possible. i don't envy one bit what he has to do around here.

 

that said, it's also much easier to say "we're not talking about that" as someone who's not affected by it in any way. endowed social privilege comes with a lot of benefits.

[gettlemanjack]

Todd McShay today: "Jameis Winston is one of the best QB prospects to enter the league in the last 10 years"

http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/mockdraft?source=todd-mcshay-mock-draft&version=4&src=desktop&wjb

[Cam's New Arm]

"...and would have been drafted behind Cam Newton"

[Batman]

Cam and the Panthers own the South.

Jameis and the Bucs are irrelevant.

[CatMan72]

Cool story, get back to me when he's actually played a game. Kid got rattled by Oregon ' s defense, wait till he gets a load of us.

[Donald LaFell]

This might not be horrible. This is the kind of that could push Cam and make him even better. Cam is a competitor and I am sure that he doesn't want to be referred to as a lesser player that Winston.

I guess playing against Brees and Ryan wasn't good enough.