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Would you be mad if gettleman chose Todd Gurley as our first round pick?


Todd Gurley RB, Georgia Pick #25  

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  1. 1. Would you be mad if Todd Gurley was our First Round Pick?

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The idea of adding Todd Gurley to our team has grown on me through the past few weeks. He has the power and speed combination of an Adrian Peterson and a Marshawn Lynch, but is currently injured, which may allow him to slip to our pick.

 

Nobody really debates that he is a top 10/15 talent if uninjured. I argue that he is worth our first round pick this year.

 

First reason, we are playing the long term game. Stewart will be playing at 28 years old this season. If we cut him post June 1st in 2016 we will save 5.75 million, he costs this team 9.5 million on the cap in 2016.

 

Second reason, the offense we run, pun intended. We are a run heavy team with a big arm QB. Our Oline doesn't create huge holes like the cowboys but was pretty effective at the end of the season in run blocking. Gurley is also an excellent checkdown option that we will use alot. If we pick Gurley, he would have big impact in the future (2016 and beyond), he would be a threat on every play.

 

Third Reason, the impact to this team is not there from picks at other positions. A WR in this draft may not have this kind of impact (not sold on jaelen strong or anyone else outside the top 3) Devin Smith (OSU) is an interesting option but may not be worth our 1st rounder and will not last to our 2nd round pick. DE would be a nice pick due to charles johnson contract next year would save us 11 million by cutting him, though not sure if anyone is worth it compared to gurley.

 

What do you guys think about our options in the First Round?

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Yes

 

Because, for example, Stewart/Fozzy rushing with Flowers blocking at RT > Stewart/Gurley rushing with Remmers/Oher at RT.

 

Gurley might be "absolute" BPA when we pick, but I'm sure there's someone with similar value at another spot we need more help at.

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