This is Cam's year to silence a lot of critics

[Mother Grabber]

cam most certainly did not take a step back last year. our record wasn't as good, but his QB play, especially with decision making and reading the defense was markedly better. he has made clear improvement each year.

on a side note, only a jets fan would think that quitting is something to brag about.

[AceBoogie]

Anybody watch Golic this morning basically call Cam a bust?

[tiger7_88]

Yeah, it is Cam's year to show everyone. I've watched every one of his pro snaps, just like everyone here. He's a phenomenal athlete, charismatic and has everything it takes to be a QB.

But...

He's got to win and he's got to win in the playoffs, or we're looking at Michael Vick (minus the bad publicity) all over again: great athlete, should be an elite NFL QB, but never reaches the potential.

Football is a quarterback driven sport, and the only statistic that matters in the end is the Win-Loss ratio. A quarterback either wins games or doesn't.

Going into this season, Cam's win-loss-tie ratio is 31-31-1. In the same span of time, Jake Delhomme (nowhere near the athlete Cam is) posted a win-loss ratio for us of 36-25 (his fourth season was cut short three games). Kerry Collins (and no one is going to cheer him as a great QB) posted a 26/26 record his four years with us (only 4 games in 1998 -- all losses).

Playoff wins and losses for them for the first four years here are:

Newton: 1-2

Delhomme: 5-2

Collins: 1-2

Rushing, passing, all other stats aside, if we aren't winning, it doesn't matter. If we aren't striking deep into the playoffs, we're basically the Cincinnati Bengals.

Right now, historically Cam is neck and neck with Kerry Collins, another guy we thought was a franchise QB. A QB with Cam's skillset should be way ahead of Collins at this point in his career. He should have won more games.

So yeah, this year, Cam really needs to show everyone. He needs to make that leap and pay off the hope we've all invested in him. You can blame injuries, coaching and the quality of other players as much as you want, but Collins and Delhomme had the same issues. It's time for Cam to rise up and at least soar above Collins.

He's got much more work ahead to match up with Delhomme.

I...

I just...

Its just never gonna stop, is it?

[Cary Kollins]

Anybody watch Golic this morning basically call Cam a bust?

 

 

lol wat

[Cookie Lyon]

The general manager of the Carolina Panthers literally said Cam Newton has already proven he is a franchise quarterback.

That's pretty much all that matters.

 

Amen.

[t96]

Wins and losses, in the end, that is really what matters. Is Cam a better football player than Collins and Delhomme? Without a doubt he is!

He just needs to show this year that he has what it takes to bring the team into the winner's group. Until then, he really isn't a franchise QB, he hasn't earned the title. You don't become a franchise QB by being a marketing miracle, but by winning games and giving your team a chance to compete at championship level.

He has not lived up to that, yet. Yogurt, Gatorade, Under Armor, Belks, NFL Play 60... hey, it's cool to see him in commercials. Pro Bowl appearances look great. Good management and marketers can get you those things. Super Bowl rings take wins on the field.

I believe he has it in him. I really do. We just need to see him lead a team to the promised land, yanno?

And this is the year the team needs to see it, or we're looking at giving a big, fat contract to a guy who might never get us a championship. Phillip Rivers, Matt Ryan, Donovan McNabb, Jay Cutler ... the list of the almost was guys is pretty long. I want Cam to be a Hall of Famer, with multiple Super Bowl rings for us.

But we need to see something concrete, real soon.

Peyton Manning was 32-32 after 4 seasons, was he not a franchise QB?

[Khaki Lackey]

Anybody watch Golic this morning basically call Cam a bust?

Please tell me you're kidding

[Captain Obvious]

wasn't this a topic last  year? and the year before? Let's hope he keeps improving.

[Khaki Lackey]

wasn't this a topic last year? and the year before? Let's hope he keeps improving.

No. We don't get to play the Skins, Cowboys, Colts, Packers and Hawks every year.

Well, it seems like we play the Hawks every year...but you're not quite getting the point of the OP.

[OneBadCat]

I think Cam has done well so far but I agree if he wants to be an elite QB and be paid like one, he'll need to put the team on his back. He's been doing that for years already but I'd like to see him at least throw for 30 TDs in a season. He's yet to that and he's very capable of it.

[Hawk]

so just for my record keeping....year 4 is the year that the number one pick should be silencing his critics....thanks.

[Khyber53]

I like Cam, I do. I was thrilled when we got him and I've enjoyed watching him. 

 

And was said before, Manning was 32-32 at one point in his career. He became the kind of quarterback that brings a team up, the rising tide that raises all boats.

 

It's time for Cam to do that. That's all.

 

 

[thefuzz]

Cam is, and has been by all accounts a "franchise guy".

 

Now I'm ready to see him start to master the nuances of the game that the best do on a regular basis.  Then, Cam can be unstoppable.

[PantherWake]

Don't worry Squirrel, next year is Geno's year. 

Lmaoooo