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I know this is a hypothetical question. How much would this offense change with KB?


Ivan The Awesome

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Valid question.

Looking at last years video, I didn't see many instances of Cam forcing it to KB unless there was basically no one open.  KB is the type of receiver where as even if he is covered he is open.  Even when it was forced, it wasn't even 50/50 it was more 75/25 in KB's favor.

I mean KB had more than his fair share of dropped touchdowns as well last year but what KB brings in catch radius and size is more significant that the raw speed that Ginn brings.  However it's not as huge a gap as some make it to be.  I think what KB does, is he catches incompletions.  For example, the 1 handed back shoulder Greg Olsen caught the other day would have been an incompletion to any TE not named Grownkowski.   That was a huge play.  KB makes those plays as well. The times in which Cam is streaky/not as accurate, KB can make those catches where our other WR's can't. 

Since I was working around the house lately, it's more along these lines.  Greg Olsen is like Duct tape, he can patch holes, hold things together that shouldn't be held together , etc..   KB is like Guerilla Glue, put it on, don't worry about.   Ginn is like electrical tape, as long as you use it like it's supposed to be used, everything is fine.  Funchess is like Epoxy, he is starting to harden but you got to give it time to set.

 

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The biggest difference would be instead of people saying we have no receiving threats outside of Olsen, they would switch to saying we have no receiving threats outside Olsen and Benjamin.

Srsly though, another 6'5 stud on the field would no doubt make us that much more potent.  If Funchess continues his upward trajectory... having Olsen, Benjamin and Funchess all 6'5 ballers in the pattern is going to be nigh impossible to cover.  Add Ginn/Brown keeping the safeties honest and that's pure aerial warfare, from a team that never allows you to dismiss the run.  Scary.

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Obviously the offense would have a better passing game but maybe not as good a  running game.  Shula had to emphasize the run game and get more complex to run effectively with a loaded box.  Since offense includes both running and passing it may not have been much better overall.  After all from a points per game perspective this is the best we have done as a franchise.

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I actually agree with the premise that we would not have been better collectively this year. I think KB's injury put pressure on the other receivers to step up. I think it also has played a role in Cam's maturation as a QB. 

Even Carolina fans started believing that Cam HAD to have receivers over 6'3 to succeed. I believe KB's injury was a huge blessing. I think it influenced the way Shula called the game. I think it forced Cam to spread the ball around more. And ultimately, I think its going to make KB better. 

It has to KILL Kelvin to see his team doing this well without him. But with the receiving core becoming more reliable this year... it means that next year... our offense is going to rank even higher in points scored. There are literally too many mismatches on the field at one time. You cant double Olsen, KB, then you dont account for the speed of Corey/ Ginn and the athletic ability of Devin's 6'4 frame. 

So not only are we better this year because of KB's injury... we will be much better when he returns.  

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4 minutes ago, TheWiz said:

I actually agree with the premise that we would not have been better collectively this year. I think KB's injury put pressure on the other receivers to step up. I think it also has played a role in Cam's maturation as a QB. 

Even Carolina fans started believing that Cam HAD to have receivers over 6'3 to succeed. I believe KB's injury was a huge blessing. I think it influenced the way Shula called the game. I think it forced Cam to spread the ball around more. And ultimately, I think its going to make KB better. 

It has to KILL Kelvin to see his team doing this well without him. But with the receiving core becoming more reliable this year... it means that next year... our offense is going to rank even higher in points scored. There are literally too many mismatches on the field at one time. You cant double Olsen, KB, then you dont account for the speed of Corey/ Ginn and the athletic ability of Devin's 6'4 frame. 

So not only are we better this year because of KB's injury... we will be much better when he returns.  

was going to say the same thing (only with probably too many words). we will be much better next year because of no kelvin this year.

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It would make a big difference in so many areas IMO.

Cam could just throw jump balls (or KB could fight over defenders on contested balls/short throws). This would knock down his INT's, cause by his slippery fingered receivers earlier this year. In the process, it would gain Newton more yards and increase his TD's as well.

Of course, it would make Olsen and the other receivers open more often. Cam didn't force it to KB the way many instinctively believe or say he did. And even if Cam did, KB fought for balls. So even if he didn't catch it, he would try to prevent a defender from catching it for an INT.

In a nutshell: It would just make Cam even more confident than he is now, while making the offense even more potentially explosive and reliable than it is now.

Nonetheless, I'm just as excited to watch Olsen, Funchess, Cotchery, Brown, and Ginn do their thing this Sun, and 2015 on a whole, than worry about next year! But it's certainly enticing.

Go Panthers!

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I get the idea behind it but we'd definitely be better, with KB on the field then defenses would have to find a way to contain him, Olsen and also Ginn/Brown as the deep threats while also recognising the high level running game of Stewart and Cam, that would be phenomenally difficult to defend against because ultimately you can only cover so much ground

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21 minutes ago, Swaggasaurus said:

Shula would call the plays differently. Red zone back to back fade routes with poor throw or drop. It was as obvious as a Tolbert up the middle run this year last year with KB. It would hurt us in the red zone I think, just because Shula is stupid. 

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