Ron Rivera likely gone with new owner

[Seltzer]

You really want to get buried as a franchise?  Then firing Rivera would be the thing to do.

I would lose all confidence in an owner if they were stupid enough to do that.

 

[Bartin]

31 minutes ago, Paa Langfart said:

If you just bought this team would you be satisfied with RR as your head coach ?  I sure as hell wouldn't.

Temporarily, I definitely would. It's not a good idea to go in and blow everything up immediately especially since any sale wouldn't happen until well into the offseason. Let the year play out then evaluate and decide.

[Fox007]

Actually the smartest move a new owner could do is to trade Rivera for some compensation while he is worth something.

Unless they have changed the rules since this article: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/12/02/teams-can-still-trade-for-head-coaches/

I heard that you can't trade for HC from some people but that doesn't seem true.

Even if we went from "above avg" (just avg imo but w/e we'll give it that) HC to just avg HC but improved our OC from dead last in NFL history to even competent it would be a dramatic overall increase in the football team. Therefore worth it and you do it everyday twice on sunday, and all the other cliches.

[therealmjl]

This would be a foolish thing to do this offseason.

 

[TheRumGone]

I think ron is an above average coach that you can win with. Win a super bowl? I’m not so sure. It might be possible we’ve peaked with Ron’s team which isn’t horrible. We can be a really strong team at times even with Shula. And I get that we could do a lot worse than him. So if new ownership decided to go another direction I would be cautiously optimistic.

[frash.exe]

20 minutes ago, PhillyB said:

best case scenario is ownership gives him a year on the hot seat and the new GM demands changes at OC.

with a good draft and free agency we could be deadly.

better to just change the entire regime in one swoop

in 2013 we hired gettleman who was supposed to build the team to be a contender “...but you can’t fire ron or touch the coaching staff and btw we’re in cap hell lol good luck”.

my hope is that the new owner enlists accorsi as counsel in the hiring process for a new GM, which is one thing i can say JR did right back in 2012. hire a GM with a sound football philosophy that doesn’t jack off to 1970s pittsburgh steelers footage like JR used to, and he’ll find a good head coach, and then the coach will take it from there.

[Mr. Scot]

Well, Rivera to the Bears is officially dead. They've just hired Chiefs offensive coordinator Matt Nagy.

(not that it was likely at this point anyway)

[tiger7_88]

47 minutes ago, Paa Langfart said:

per Jason la Canfora - what do the rest of you think ?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/more-sports/the-latest-on-the-impending-carolina-panthers-sale/vi-BBI6Iqa

 

[L-TownCat]

13 minutes ago, emhoward said:

Y'all sure the grass is going to be greener on the other side of Rivera?

Nope.  But that grass doesn’t have a big steaming pile of Shula on it either.

[PhillyB]

4 minutes ago, frash.exe said:

better to just change the entire regime in one swoop

in 2013 we hired gettleman who was supposed to build the team to be a contender “...but you can’t fire ron or touch the coaching staff lol good luck”.

my hope is that the new owner enlists accorsi as counsel in the hiring process for a new GM, which is one thing i can say JR did right back in 2012. hire a GM with a sound football philosophy that doesn’t jack off to 1970s pittsburgh steelers footage like JR used to, and he’ll find a good head coach, and then the coach will take it from there.

i do worry that a hard reset could fug us for a year or two as new coaches have growing pains with the team, but a clean slate would be refreshing 

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, PhillyB said:

i do worry that a hard reset could fug us for a year or two as new coaches have growing pains with the team, but a clean slate would be refreshing 

Well technically, if you don't believe you can win a Super Bowl with Rivera, then that hard reset is going to have to happen eventually and you're just delaying the inevitable.

Pull the band aid off slowly or rip it off fast?

[Wanderlai]

Watch them bring Fox back lol

[frash.exe]

9 minutes ago, PhillyB said:

i do worry that a hard reset could fug us for a year or two as new coaches have growing pains with the team, but a clean slate would be refreshing 

i know, but sometimes the bandaid is going to have to come off anyway, so better to rip it off in one swift shot

the problem i forsee with keeping ron is that once you start dictating which coordinators/assistants he needs to fire, it’s probably going to cause a rift from the get go. when it comes to his peers, he’s one of the boys, so he’s going to try to protect shula and everybody else on his staff that should be replaced.

that and i honestly think it was a mistake that we did a coaching transition in 2010 and an executive transition in 2013. ron was the coach that marty hired. it doesn’t make sense that you would then fire marty but not ron and force the new guy you hired to work with him.

[CamMoon]

If we have to lose Rivera in order to lose Shula I'm 100% ok with that