PFF Ranks the Panthers O-Line 20th

[hepcat]

https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-week-5-nfl-offensive-line-rankings

 

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20.

Starting Lineup:

Left Tackle: Chris Clark, 57.2
Left Guard: Greg Van Roten, 60.8
Center: Ryan Kalil, 65.0
Right Guard: Tyler Larsen, 52.0
Right Tackle: Taylor Moton, 82.6

It’s difficult to believe that the Panthers could watch Taylor Moton in practice over the last year and a half and still not find a starting spot for him before injury forced him into the lineup. The second-year tackle has allowed three hurries now on 166 pass-block snaps for his entire career. That’s it. My guess is someone isn’t getting their job back when they’re fully healthy.

 

OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVEN'T SEEN RON RIVERA COACH YET

[Snake]

20th isn't a bad ranking when you lose your all pro G in FA, all pro RT to injury, and have to bring in a patch unit. 

[Seltzer]

Good post, and and I would agree #20 is probably correct.  Even though offensive line has been surprisingly not a disaster, it is still something Cam and Norv have to overcome on a weekly basis through scheme and execution.

Also makes you appreciate what CMC has done as a runner.  Regardless, the line still can improve over the year as they play more together.  Plus, Trai at RG is better than Larsen.  If we can get the line grading in the top-half by the end of the year and incorporate Moore and Samuel more into the offense, we can be a threat in the playoffs.

[RumHam]

Those deep passes might not be happening because the offense is tailored around Clarke giving up a rush. Not a good score but then again PFF.

[panther4life]

I don’t believe anything PFF says anymore.

 

[bigdavis]

I've long been a critic of PFF's subjective grading.  They make it look scientific, but it's just one guy's opinion.  To my eye, and I've watched every play more than once, Greg Van Roten deserves a higher grade than he's given.  But then I checked all the grades they gave other LGs, and he's 12th ranked (ahead of the vaunted Andrew Norwell), so good on him.

And our overall team rank might be higher if Trey Turner were in the mix at RG, rather than Larsen, who drags down the grade with his very low 52 grade.

Overall comment on PFF: meh.

[FugAllY'all]

As per usual, Cam making his line looking better than it is.

[thunderraiden]

2 hours ago, stbugs said:

Based on the post above with pressures and yards before contact and these stats:

#1 rushing yards per game

#3 rushing yards per carry

#6 in sacks given up per game

I'm not sure #20 correctly reflects what they've done so far. Our yards per play is middle of the road, but we do run more often than most.

In all fairness we haven’t played any elite d-lines. Dallas was the best so far? Or maybe the Bengals. Lets just say our o-line is lucky they haven’t faced a d-line like the Bears.

[Saca312]

2 hours ago, FugAllY'all said:

As per usual, Cam making his line looking better than it is.

Would actuallly have to agree with this point.

Sure, our oline has massively outperformed expectations, but a lot is Cam’s elite tier pocket movement and avoiding pressure.

[jtm]

Panthers OL is much better than 20th.  Granted, it took a couple games for the Panthers OL to gel and this lineup now is better than we've had in a couple years.  No way are they middle of the pack bc they are creating running lanes and Cam has plenty of time to throw the ball.  

[jtm]

8 hours ago, Saca312 said:

Would actuallly have to agree with this point.

Sure, our oline has massively outperformed expectations, but a lot is Cam’s elite tier pocket movement and avoiding pressure.

People here act like Cam is the only QB that is mobile in the pocket.  Most QBs in the NFL today are very mobile and Cam is unique for what he can do outside of the pocket.  The days of statute of liberty QBs like Big Ben and Brady are long gone and all of these younger QBs can elude tackles in the pocket.  

[gakonline]

12 hours ago, stbugs said:

Based on the post above with pressures and yards before contact and these stats:

#1 rushing yards per game

#3 rushing yards per carry

#6 in sacks given up per game

I'm not sure #20 correctly reflects what they've done so far. Our yards per play is middle of the road, but we do run more often than most.

PFF is trash & not reliable. Based on the actuals of less pressures & rush contact, we should be the 1st or second best Oline as a unit. Look where the other teams stand. I think PFF likes the house hold names to use in the in the rankings versus the blue collar guys we have on the line. Until the names of players start popping up in the network shows or social media they will continue to give the no names average or low grades. It is easy for the skill position players because they are showcased in the highlights.

Oline players rarely get any love. 

[TheSpecialJuan]

23 hours ago, hepcat said:

https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-week-5-nfl-offensive-line-rankings

 

OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVEN'T SEEN RON RIVERA COACH YET

Subsitute Trai Turner for Larsen and we get a much higher grade

[My Goodness My Guinness]

23 hours ago, panther4life said:

I don’t believe anything PFF says anymore.

Man, I'll say it again, it's remarkable what this O-Line has been able to do so far this year. I think A LOT of credit needs to go to Matsko for getting the absolute most out of these guys.