can you imagine losing 7 in a row and not feel the need to make any changes

[Malt Liquor]

The saints are not coasting to the superbowl. They might make it but it's not going to be easy getting past the Rams. A team that made coaching changes and might win the whole thing. 

[Jangler]

24 minutes ago, KillerKat said:

We always make decisions too late. This is what will happen: We start out terrible with a losing record and Rivera gets canned a little before the midway point leaving us with no options and chalking up the lame duck season to a loss when all the fans and every other analyst knew midway through the 2018 season that he should've been canned. fug Tepper.

he's been owner for 7 months? I can't blame him for no knee jerk reactions. As  long as Norv stays, and Cam is ready to play in September. I will be waiting. But we all know Riverboat pants are hot this year. (not in a gay way)

[top dawg]

If you lose games, you lose games. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter if they're consecutive losses or not. Of course, seven consecutive losses means something has gone wrong, but it's not like the problems are unidentifiable. In our case, O-line, injury, turnovers, chunk plays on defense, and not enough pressure on the pass rush.

Fix the problems---which we will try to do the best way we can under the circumstances---and move forward.

[panthers55]

50 minutes ago, top dawg said:

If you lose games, you lose games. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter if they're consecutive losses or not. Of course, seven consecutive losses means something has gone wrong, but it's not like the problems are unidentifiable. In our case, O-line, injury, turnovers, chunk plays on defense, and not enough pressure on the pass rush.

Fix the problems---which we will try to do the best way we can under the circumstances---and move forward.

Exactly. I figure Tepper says the difference between the first 8 games and last 8 games was Cam plain and simple. Your franchise quarterback gets hurt and you start losing. Sure fix the defense, get everyone healthy  and there is no reason to feel we won't be right back in the hunt next year. 

[RumHam]

10 hours ago, Kevin Greene said:

I'd put Marty Hurney, Richardson's crony still being in charge equally as egregious.

Wonder what the exact timeline is of the internal Richardson misconduct investigation, the Gettleman firing and the only person ol' Jerry could get to run his club was Hurney who left in disgrace years earlier. WTH did Hurney do the 4 years after he was first canned until rehire? This organization is a joke.

he stalked his ex girlfriend

[rhyslloyd]

Are you asking Ron or Tepper?  

[Snake]

An excuse can always be found. The fact is though we started losing again when Hurney and Rivera were reunited.

[Camp Fodder]

18 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

Exactly. I figure Tepper says the difference between the first 8 games and last 8 games was Cam plain and simple. Your franchise quarterback gets hurt and you start losing. Sure fix the defense, get everyone healthy  and there is no reason to feel we won't be right back in the hunt next year. 

Anybody that watched this team knows it was much more than Cam being hurt. The defense took a major step back and the olibe was atrocious. You also have to wonder if Rons message has gone stale as well

[trueblade]

10 hours ago, panthers55 said:

I doubt we are done with evaluations. With so many teams firing their coaches we have to decide who we might like and who we want to get rid of. Along with the backdrop that anyone coming here would be working on a 2 year contract at best. Not a great way to recruit folks. Just saying. .

 

10 hours ago, Kevin Greene said:

Good point. If you want the best and brightest......

Two year contracts are pretty standard for assistant coaches across the league.

[Carl Spackler]

Watch Ron hand all DC duties back to Washington next year, then they both get fired after a 1-7 start

[Zaximus]

I'm disappointed in Tepper for sure, Rivera will NEVER be a coach to get anyone over the hump.   He lives in 1985 and is a fossil of a coach.    The only thing I can think of is Tepper just won't care about the next two seasons and essentially sees us rebuilding, but not sure.

[thefuzz]

Not having a legit backup to Cam Newton is a fireable offense.

His shoulder issues are KNOWN in the building, and you continue to trot out that offensive line, and have a very inexperienced QB there to back him up.

Cam is a runner, he is approaching 30, and we had zero backup plan for him going down this season.  Zero.  And that's even with Ryan, Peppers, and TD on their likely swan song year to boot.

We are managed by a fool.

[panthers55]

8 hours ago, trueblade said:

 

Two year contracts are pretty standard for assistant coaches across the league.

Not ones on the hot seat with new owners. Plus if the head coach gets a new 4 year deal then usually the assistants who go with him have the same deal. Where did you see an an average contract is 2 years?

[panthers55]

7 hours ago, thefuzz said:

Not having a legit backup to Cam Newton is a fireable offense.

His shoulder issues are KNOWN in the building, and you continue to trot out that offensive line, and have a very inexperienced QB there to back him up.

Cam is a runner, he is approaching 30, and we had zero backup plan for him going down this season.  Zero.  And that's even with Ryan, Peppers, and TD on their likely swan song year to boot.

We are managed by a fool.

Agree we need a transitional plan from Cam with continued injury issues as he approaches 30. Problem is you need 2 quarterbacks who can start and win games which a salary cap limits how much  money you can allocate to a position.