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I think there is still a good chance both Cox and Obada are on the 53 man roster.

Last year on the final 53-man roster there were 10 defensive lineman and 6 linebackers (16 total).

With the move to 3-4, let's suppose for argument sake they keep 8 defensive lineman and 8 linebackers (4 ILB's and 4 OLB's)

Let's start with the linebackers: 4 ILB's (Luke Kuechly, Shaq Thompson, Andre Smith, Jermaine Carter, Jr.)

                                                         4 OLB's/EDGE (Bruce Irvin, Brian Burns, Christian Miller, Marquis Haynes)

That still leaves 8 Defensive Lineman: (EDGE: Mario Addison, Bryan Cox, Jr., Efe Obada, & INTERIOR: Gerald McCoy, Kawaan Short, Dontari Poe, Vernon Butler, and Kyle Love)

Of course there is some grey area b/c any of the outside EDGE guys could theoretically line up as a down lineman or in a 2 point rushing stance.  Regardless, that still is only 16 total roster spots.

We are still going to need guys to play in the 4 man fronts, so I still think there is a place for all these guys. Burns & Miller are rookies, and Haynes is basically a red-shirt rookie.  Obada and Cox both have had significant game experience.  Without them, our only EDGE guys with any real NFL experience are Addison and Irvin.  That would be concerning IMO.

Now, I think there is obviously going to be some EDGE guys that are inactive on gameday, and that may also be a reflection of whether Rivera wants to use more 4 man fronts against a certain opponent.

Regardless, this is a much better situation to be in than what the defensive line looked like in January.  I am excited about both the potential and depth of this group.

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4 hours ago, Dex said:

I think Cox stays if it's between the two of them. Gonna be some stiff competition. Gonna really get the blood flowing. Hardest camp battle to date. Cox really wants to be a member of the Carolina Panthers.

Both of these men need to show penetration, deep penetration. 

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7 hours ago, Dex said:

I think Cox stays if it's between the two of them. Gonna be some stiff competition. Gonna really get the blood flowing. Hardest camp battle to date. Cox really wants to be a member of the Carolina Panthers.

Get a wire on the coachs but I can’t see either making the team.

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17 hours ago, Seltzer said:

I think there is still a good chance both Cox and Obada are on the 53 man roster.

Last year on the final 53-man roster there were 10 defensive lineman and 6 linebackers (16 total).

With the move to 3-4, let's suppose for argument sake they keep 8 defensive lineman and 8 linebackers (4 ILB's and 4 OLB's)

Let's start with the linebackers: 4 ILB's (Luke Kuechly, Shaq Thompson, Andre Smith, Jermaine Carter, Jr.)

                                                         4 OLB's/EDGE (Bruce Irvin, Brian Burns, Christian Miller, Marquis Haynes)

That still leaves 8 Defensive Lineman: (EDGE: Mario Addison, Bryan Cox, Jr., Efe Obada, & INTERIOR: Gerald McCoy, Kawaan Short, Dontari Poe, Vernon Butler, and Kyle Love)

Of course there is some grey area b/c any of the outside EDGE guys could theoretically line up as a down lineman or in a 2 point rushing stance.  Regardless, that still is only 16 total roster spots.

We are still going to need guys to play in the 4 man fronts, so I still think there is a place for all these guys. Burns & Miller are rookies, and Haynes is basically a red-shirt rookie.  Obada and Cox both have had significant game experience.  Without them, our only EDGE guys with any real NFL experience are Addison and Irvin.  That would be concerning IMO.

Now, I think there is obviously going to be some EDGE guys that are inactive on gameday, and that may also be a reflection of whether Rivera wants to use more 4 man fronts against a certain opponent.

Regardless, this is a much better situation to be in than what the defensive line looked like in January.  I am excited about both the potential and depth of this group.

You forgot Norris?He will take a spot because of economy.

So i think Cox/Obada/Haynes/Andre Smith/Carter will be cutted one,at least.That's painful.

Hope Hurney 2.0 can make a trade instead of cut,while trade for a FS,that's dreaming.:crying:

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16 hours ago, Snake said:

They will have to either BULK or slim down to be a Jack.

I suspect that is already what is happening as coaches told players how they are fitting into the new defense. What isn"t clear is what will happen when the bullets start to fly. I think we won't know some pieces of the puzzle until we see them play the opener. The preseason might be vanilla and reveal little.

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54 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

I suspect that is already what is happening as coaches told players how they are fitting into the new defense. What isn"t clear is what will happen when the bullets start to fly. I think we won't know some pieces of the puzzle until we see them play the opener. The preseason might be vanilla and reveal little.

Best part of the 3-4 is the ability to mask what you are doing. The last 5 year's our div knew what was coming. My biggest concern is sealing off the run at this point.

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22 hours ago, mc52beast said:

Didn’t Irvin comment about how he was impressed with Cox and was looking forward to helping him improve?

Yes, Irvin made some comments shortly after being signed about liking Cox quite a bit. 

Not that there is anything wrong with that.

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3 hours ago, Snake said:

Best part of the 3-4 is the ability to mask what you are doing. The last 5 year's our div knew what was coming. My biggest concern is sealing off the run at this point.

I think McCoy and Short will be very important to closing the gaps.

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