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Will we see a desperate coaching staff against the Cardinals?

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I’m assuming that despite any t-shirts Ron has saying the opposite that he knows an 0-3 record means the season is over... no division title, no wild card.

So what are we going to see from Ron and Norv(tied to Ron) as far as game planning and what will we see from Cam?

Will they decide that Cam has to be used as a dual threat, despite the fact that it still looks like that shoulder isn’t right and that possibly his ankle is still healing? Would they be willing to get Cam injured in order to keep from going 0-3?

IMO we will see a desperate coaching staff pulling out all the stops to save their jobs. You will see Cam running the ball his usual 8-10 times. You might even see the tackles getting help. 

What are your thoughts?

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11 minutes ago, mc52beast said:

I’m assuming that despite any t-shirts Ron has saying the opposite that he knows an 0-3 record means the season is over... no division title, no wild card.

So what are we going to see from Ron and Norv(tied to Ron) as far as game planning and what will we see from Cam?

Will they decide that Cam has to be used as a dual threat, despite the fact that it still looks like that shoulder isn’t right and that possibly his ankle is still healing? Would they be willing to get Cam injured in order to keep from going 0-3?

IMO we will see a desperate coaching staff pulling out all the stops to save their jobs. You will see Cam running the ball his usual 8-10 times. You might even see the tackles getting help. 

What are your thoughts?

"You will see Cam running the ball his usual 8-10 times."

If this happens he will suffer intent to injure hits all game and will surely be out for the season and we do not have a viable back-up yet.

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15 minutes ago, mc52beast said:

I’m assuming that despite any t-shirts Ron has saying the opposite that he knows an 0-3 record means the season is over... no division title, no wild card.

So what are we going to see from Ron and Norv(tied to Ron) as far as game planning and what will we see from Cam?

Will they decide that Cam has to be used as a dual threat, despite the fact that it still looks like that shoulder isn’t right and that possibly his ankle is still healing? Would they be willing to get Cam injured in order to keep from going 0-3?

IMO we will see a desperate coaching staff pulling out all the stops to save their jobs. You will see Cam running the ball his usual 8-10 times. You might even see the tackles getting help. 

What are your thoughts?

Still blaming the shoulder  lol. 

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What does all this mean desperate or not  even having to face a bad defense do you think Cam can complete enough passes to win. To me that’s what it comes down to our coaches have put together a game plan to win both games if our qb could make the basic ones we would have won so what does desperation have to do with if Cams gonna be able to hold up his end of the deal.

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2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Absolutely. If that final play call against the Bucs didn't scream desperation, I don't know what does.

That screamed for sure win. CMC did not deliver. That was on Norv though. Should have gone two back set, fake to CMC, Scarlett running the exact same play. 

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