Panthers Making Good Decisions | Norwell, Fun & Star Among Worst Contracts in the NFL

[The Huddler]

Star is under rated

 

its lazy to just look at his stats and think hes overpaid, but hes the anchor of that solid defense.  he makes his impact in the lack of rushing yards against them, unlike us where we get gashed. 

 

stopping the run is valuable in the nfl.  creating a pile and tackling the dude with the guards back has the same result as him shedding the block and padding his stats

[Paintballr]

57 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

It happens way more than people care to admit.

There is a reason why the average career is like 3-4 years. 

[LinvilleGorge]

1 hour ago, Jon Snow said:

It happens way more than people care to admit.

Unless you really LOVE football, it's gotta be a little tough staying motivated when you sign a contract with enough guaranteed money to have you set for life if you simply aren't straight up idiotic with your money 

[Toomers]

6 minutes ago, GreensboroPirate said:

Pro Football Focus evaluates every play, not just his stats, and has him graded extremely poorly, even in run support

People who say he's under rated don't actually watch Buffalo Bills games (people will poo on PFF, but yet offer their own opinion when they've probably watched a total of 5 minutes of Bills tape).

Bills fans are not a fan of his contract or play.

There have been calls to even bench him for Jordan Phillips

https://billswire.usatoday.com/2019/10/29/sean-mcdermott-star-lotulelei-defends-buffalo-bills/

   So PFF is the final word on everything? OK. 
 

  Let’s go over some other players with the same context. How do you feel about Brian Burns? Matt Paradis? Eric Reid? Daryl Williams? Brice Irvin? Ross Cockrell?  These players all bad contracts/picks? 

[TheSpecialJuan]

tremendous  

[Paa Langfart]

Fun Fun gets nothing but my full respect for this

[Moo Daeng]

1 hour ago, jfra78 said:

I hope the bills didn't sign Star thinking he was going to be anything but a space eater, that's what he has always been.  Sounds to me like he has earned his contract

They knew what they were getting. It is McDermott and Beane after all 

[Moo Daeng]

24 minutes ago, Toomers said:

   So PFF is the final word on everything? OK. 
 

  Let’s go over some other players with the same context. How do you feel about Brian Burns? Matt Paradis? Eric Reid? Daryl Williams? Brice Irvin? Ross Cockrell?  These players all bad contracts/picks? 

Well it seems to be backed up by the opinion of those who follow the team.

So those guys have bad contracts? That's the subject.

[GoPanthers123]

Hurney magic.  

[Moo Daeng]

50 minutes ago, The Huddler said:

Star is under rated

 

its lazy to just look at his stats and think hes overpaid, but hes the anchor of that solid defense.  he makes his impact in the lack of rushing yards against them, unlike us where we get gashed. 

 

stopping the run is valuable in the nfl.  creating a pile and tackling the dude with the guards back has the same result as him shedding the block and padding his stats

They are 19th in rush yds  allowed per game. That's why he and the other DTs are getting heat.

[NYPantherFan]

1 hour ago, Jon Snow said:

It happens way more than people care to admit.

I'll probably get poo'd on for this, but I think we are seeing it with KK right now. 

[Basbear]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Star is a space eater and block occupier. 

Look at the Panthers' defensive rankings while he was here vs. after, then do the same for the Bills. That's where Star's value shows up 

I dont want to pay a space eater 5years 50 million with 30 in guarantees. Thats a HARD pass for me. Poe is playing much better and has the skill set to rush the QB at times.  

[Peon Awesome]

Hurney deserves credit for several things but an underrated aspect of his 2nd term is the minimization of large guaranteed contracts. Even contracts that people have complained about at one point or another either involve a very small percentage of the cap like Gano's, where the $3 million extra we pay him would buy us a backup lineman, or has easy outs after 1 or 2 years like Poe's contract. What really hurts are contracts like Kalil's where you're saddled with a huge portion of your cap devoted to a player with no easy out in sight. His other signings mimic this too: 1 year deals on McCoy, Boston, Irvin and Daryl Williams, 3 years on Paradis and Reid with outs after 2 years. Where it gets interesting is what he'll do with Bradberry and Shaq and will really dictate how much he's improved. 

[OneBadCat]

Hurneys done a good job this time around and I would consider retaining him over Rivera if Tepper choose to get a new HC.