Rapoport: Rivera the hottest coaching candidate

[Cdw]

It wont surprise me at all if Ron goes on to have some very successful years somewhere else, wish him the best.  He did good things here, but, the time was up.  Getting fired mid season like this will probably be some extra fuel for him to do what he can to improve his coaching wherever he ends up.

[rayzor]

48 minutes ago, MVPccaffrey said:

Of course he is.  Which is why if Tepper doesn't hit a home run with the next hire he's going to look like a reactionary idiot.  Especially if his judgement was based on a season in which we were essentially starting a rookie QB and had more than half of our lines go down with injury.

 

Reactionary? Lol just how long was he supposed to go keeping Rivera around?  This was going to be the third losing season in a row. He's only had three winning seasons in 9 years. You keep him around why? Because he's a good guy? Because he had a little success a few years ago? That's the same reasoning people used saying that fox should stay. 

In fact people said the same kind of things about fox. That he was a hot commodity going into the coaching market. People thought we would instantly regret letting him go.

He experienced some quick success just like I thought he would, helping a crappy team get not so crappy but it was nothing sustainable.

I think Rivera  do the same thing. He'll take a 2 win team and turn it into an 8 win team. Only problem is it will stay that way. He can't sustain success. He just doesn't have it in him.

[thefuzz]

Here's the thing.

Ron failed to build a consistent winner around 2 of the very best players in the NFL.  One at QB, and one at MLB.

There are very few coaches who are given the luxury of a DPOY and an MVP player on the same roster.

Even with all of that talent, he managed 3 winning seasons in 9 years.  He is a decent coach, but it was time for the Panthers to move on.

[chbright]

20 minutes ago, TN05 said:

And John Fox had four consecutive playoff seasons with the Broncos and a 0.719 win percentage. Most of that’s on Manning, but the guts of that team won a Super Bowl after he left.

Just because something isn’t working here doesn’t mean it can’t work elsewhere. The Chargers and Browns would probably love to have a coach like Rivera.

Golden calf of Bristol was Fox's QB when he 1st got to the playoffs as a Bronco. And won against the mighty Steelers with Tomlin.

 

Fox had his issues and was justly let go here and Chicago. His dismissal from Denver was a bit of a shock and really it wasn't predecessor as the offensive guru that even beat us with all mighty Manning but Fox's defense stopping the best offense in 2015.

 

Fox got the boot here for all the right reasons. As Rivera. Both are above average guys, but time was up, voice was stale. 

 

I hope we find the next big thing or at least a guy that strikes gold and wins us a championship. Whomever that may be.

 

Others are hopping that is Rivera, just like Fox. And maybe lightning strikes twice for Ron and he gets the right OC with him to win one. But here.... The time was up.

[TN05]

10 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

Here's the thing.

Ron failed to build a consistent winner around 2 of the very best players in the NFL.  One at QB, and one at MLB.

There are very few coaches who are given the luxury of a DPOY and an MVP player on the same roster.

Even with all of that talent, he managed 3 winning seasons in 9 years.  He is a decent coach, but it was time for the Panthers to move on.

It’s hard to build a consistent winner when you when your GM cuts all of your receivers then all of your cornerbacks and ignores offensive line issues. But he did it. Four playoff seasons and three division champs in a five year span... most teams would gladly take that.

[saX man]

I know SD and CHI are the popular choices but watch both of them end up in Denver haha

[Doc Holiday]

46 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

A barely over .500 career coach who only produced three winning seasons in nine years is the hottest candidate on the market?

Damn, this market sucks.

I posted this last year, but before Cam hurt his shoulder in the Steelers game(last time I looked at the numbers). He was #5 among active NFL head coaches in wins and winning percentage since he became head coach. 
 

 

[rayzor]

Fox got the boot in Denver because he started calling Chicago about going there. 

His future may have been uncertain in Denver but when he started shopping himself to the bears it became a necessity. 

[thefuzz]

1 minute ago, TN05 said:

It’s hard to build a consistent winner when you when your GM cuts all of your receivers then all of your cornerbacks and ignores offensive line issues. But he did it. Four playoff seasons and three division champs in a four year span... most teams would gladly take that.

3 winning seasons in 9 years with Cam Newton and Luke on your roster, with appearances by:

Steve Smith

Greg Olsen

Ryan Kalil

Peppers

Gross

Stewart

etc. etc. etc.

This team has had talent, we have not had the dynamic coaching to make sure we were a consistent winner.

[SmokinwithWilly]

38 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Would you be happy if we hire Jason Garrett when Jerry Jones fires him?

I'm not so sure he is the problem in Dallas. He has underperformed sure, but Jerry Jones has his hands everywhere in that organization. Garrett has an egotistical media whore for an owner/gm who is way too involved. 

[chknwing]

I hope he goes to Atlanta.  

[LinvilleGorge]

6 minutes ago, Doc Holiday said:

I posted this last year, but before Cam hurt his shoulder in the Steelers game(last time I looked at the numbers). He was #5 among active NFL head coaches in wins and winning percentage since he became head coach. 
 

 

So Cam was carrying him? Yeah, I agree.

[Dilla]

17 minutes ago, rayzor said:

That's the same reasoning people used saying that fox should stay. 

In fact people said the same kind of things about fox. That he was a hot commodity going into the coaching market. People thought we would instantly regret letting him go.

I'm pretty sure the same people saying the Panthers will regret firing Ron are the same people that said we would regret firing Fox and were Fox defenders until very end. Just content with mediocrity.

If the Panthers flop, I won't change my tune about Rivera running his course. It won't be "We should have kept Rivera", it will be "We hired the wrong replacement ".

[hepcat]

Rivera might have success somewhere else - he is a good coach. Just like what happened with Andy Reid and the Eagles, sometimes a coach wears out. The message doesn't work anymore. The same old rah rah speeches get old. 

I wish him the best but I am glad the Panthers are finally moving on, albeit one season too late in my opinion. No team that endures a 7 game losing streak should keep that coach.