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Tony Pauline: Jets are one of about five teams that have been sniffing around and doing a lot of preliminary work on James Bradberry.

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Doc Holiday Grand Master

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33 minutes ago, French Navy said:

I agree we shouldn't pay but I think

Gamble > Bradberry > Norman

The team that gets Bradberry will get more for their money than Washington did. 

If youre seriously suggesting that Bradberry is better than Norman, we have nothing to discuss. there are differing opinions and then there is crazy talk. nobody thinks Bradberry is anywhere near Normans level when he was with the Panthers.

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1 hour ago, Doc Holiday said:

If youre seriously suggesting that Bradberry is better than Norman, we have nothing to discuss. there are differing opinions and then there is crazy talk. nobody thinks Bradberry is anywhere near Normans level when he was with the Panthers.

People only remember the 15 season, but completely forget how he balled the fug out when he got the starting job in 14.

Norman was much, much better for us.

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2 hours ago, Doc Holiday said:

If youre seriously suggesting that Bradberry is better than Norman, we have nothing to discuss. there are differing opinions and then there is crazy talk. nobody thinks Bradberry is anywhere near Normans level when he was with the Panthers.

Bradberry is no doubt better than Norman now. It's not even close.

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3 hours ago, Moo Daeng said:

Bradberry is no doubt better than Norman now. It's not even close.

because norman went to the skins, an ineptly shithole who wanted norman to play in man to man coverage when he was an obvious zone first corner.

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4 hours ago, Moo Daeng said:

Bradberry is no doubt better than Norman now. It's not even close.

But when they were with the panthers is all you can judge them by, that’s the only common among the two players.
Norman has been playing on a noticeably worse team since he left Carolina.

when Norman left people were hoping he got paid By us, and many still begrudge DG for essentially cutting him. In contrast not many, if anyone for that matter want us to pay anywhere near that for Bradberry. 
 

as the other poster stated, it wasn’t just 2015, but also 2014 That Norman balled out with us

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If you’re rebuilding then there is no reason to keep anyone on this roster who is due a big contract...UNLESS they are a healthy, generational-type of talent. CMC is basically the only one who fits the bill (thankfully he isn’t up for contract). Bradberry, Poe, Williams, Butler, Irvin should all be allowed to walk or brought back on 1-year team friendly contracts. 
 

Then start building a team for whoever your future QB is going to be....aka...build an offensive line and defensive line that will be able to protect the QB and get after the QB. 

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26 minutes ago, unicar15 said:

If you’re rebuilding then there is no reason to keep anyone on this roster who is due a big contract...UNLESS they are a healthy, generational-type of talent. CMC is basically the only one who fits the bill (thankfully he isn’t up for contract). Bradberry, Poe, Williams, Butler, Irvin should all be allowed to walk or brought back on 1-year team friendly contracts. 
 

Then start building a team for whoever your future QB is going to be....aka...build an offensive line and defensive line that will be able to protect the QB and get after the QB. 

Make no mistake about it they are rebuilding.  

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9 hours ago, Doc Holiday said:

If youre seriously suggesting that Bradberry is better than Norman, we have nothing to discuss. there are differing opinions and then there is crazy talk. nobody thinks Bradberry is anywhere near Normans level when he was with the Panthers.

Bradberry has been pretty consistent and was a day 1 starter the last 4 years. Norman had 1 all pro year with us (and has had only 1 such season in the NFL) and that was it. 

If you were to ask yourself 4 years of solid CB play/full 16 game starter that has the ability to play against opposing teams #1 vs 1 year of elite CB play which would you choose? I'd honestly have to go with Bradberry

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59 minutes ago, unicar15 said:

If you’re rebuilding then there is no reason to keep anyone on this roster who is due a big contract...UNLESS they are a healthy, generational-type of talent. CMC is basically the only one who fits the bill (thankfully he isn’t up for contract). Bradberry, Poe, Williams, Butler, Irvin should all be allowed to walk or brought back on 1-year team friendly contracts. 
 

Then start building a team for whoever your future QB is going to be....aka...build an offensive line and defensive line that will be able to protect the QB and get after the QB. 

CMC is also 23, so he fits a 5 year plan. Same with Moore. They are both young enough and will still be in their prime when the rebuild hopefully starts paying dividends. Heck, bothe are still on their rookie deals with a 5th year option. We wouldn’t even need to talk to CMC until 2021 and Moore until 2022.

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Generally speaking, Bradberry has been a pretty good CB.  More often than not, who was the guy who could actually play defense on elite WRs?  Sure, he got beat but every CB gets beat.  It's just the way the NFL works today.  I think he's a very good starting CB.

The question becomes value as we rebuild.  This year, he would eat a lot of our remaining cap money.  I don't think that's a good idea as we rebuild.  If there was a sign and trade deal in place to get some decent value, great. 

I wish James the best.  He always came across as a good dude, hard worker, consummate pro.  I hope he's able to get the money he needs to never have to fix his own toilet again.  Still one of my favorite draft stories.

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12 hours ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

Per PFF: Out of their impending free agents, James Bradberry is one who shouldn't be brought back. He was just 71st in PFF grade and is projected to get $13.5 million per year for five years. That’s not good for a rebuilding team. 

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-2020-free-agency-preview-players-to-target-plans-of-action-potential-cuts-32-teams

Not worth the money at this point. Why do you need a good CB when you're not going to make a playoff run for another 4 years? 

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I believe that letting Bradberry walk will yield a compensatory pick for next year, providing we don't sign a comparable FA replacement. But trading him now would give us whatever pick we get for him to use this year. Granted teams know that we may release him, so they may not want to offer much. But, in our favor, they'd avoid a bidding war in FA, for a CB with a currently very good ranking. 

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As much as I like Bradberry, our defense is likely going to be either awful or mediocre for some time. I feel like we can make the quickest turnaround building up the offense, particularly the OL. Still have to find that quarterback though. Without him there is no "5 year plan" so if we don't have one there's no use in contract extensions for any potentially high priced upcoming FA's.

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