Compensatory picks are out

[Mr. Scot]

Panthers get nada.

Not sure if anybody was expecting anything anyway, but there ya go...

[Snake]

Welp we probably will be cashing in next year. 

[panther4life]

Comp picks are fairly over rated imo. Basically early 4th rounders at best. Outside of James Conner, Steven Nelson and Justin Simmons, this list is pretty uninspiring, dating back to 2011. 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/draft-finder.cgi?request=1&year_min=2011&year_max=2019&draft_round_min=3&draft_round_max=3&draft_slot_min=97&draft_slot_max=107&pick_type=overall&pos[]=qb&pos[]=rb&pos[]=wr&pos[]=te&pos[]=e&pos[]=t&pos[]=g&pos[]=c&pos[]=ol&pos[]=dt&pos[]=de&pos[]=dl&pos[]=ilb&pos[]=olb&pos[]=lb&pos[]=cb&pos[]=s&pos[]=db&pos[]=k&pos[]=p&conference=any&show=all&order_by=default

[Untouchable]

6 minutes ago, panther4life said:

Comp picks are fairly over rated imo. Basically early 4th rounders at best. Outside of James Conner, Steven Nelson and Justin Simmons, this list is pretty uninspiring, dating back to 2011. 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/draft-finder.cgi?request=1&year_min=2011&year_max=2019&draft_round_min=3&draft_round_max=3&draft_slot_min=97&draft_slot_max=107&pick_type=overall&pos[]=qb&pos[]=rb&pos[]=wr&pos[]=te&pos[]=e&pos[]=t&pos[]=g&pos[]=c&pos[]=ol&pos[]=dt&pos[]=de&pos[]=dl&pos[]=ilb&pos[]=olb&pos[]=lb&pos[]=cb&pos[]=s&pos[]=db&pos[]=k&pos[]=p&conference=any&show=all&order_by=default

The picks can be traded as well.  They are valuable capital.

[Ricky Spanish]

1 minute ago, Untouchable said:

The picks can be traded as well.  They are valuable capital.

It's free money to be used as trade sweeteners in the draft these days. If you aren't getting any, you aren't doing your job right as a GM. 

[panther4life]

9 minutes ago, Untouchable said:

The picks can be traded as well.  They are valuable capital.

I agree with the trade bait portion. Never said they are worthless but don't think its a huge deal if you don't end up with any.

[TheRed]

Figures. This is why you don't sit around hanging your hat on tanking fantasies.

[panfanman]

So Luke's value will not kick in until next year?

[bababoey]

3 minutes ago, panfanman said:

So Luke's value will not kick in until next year?

Luke will not count.  He retired.  It's treated as though we cut him.  The player has to be signed by another team for him to count in the compensatory pick formula.

[BrianS]

1 hour ago, Ricky Spanish said:

If you aren't getting any, you aren't doing your job right as a GM. 

Completely disagree.  The two have zero correlation.

Assume you draft really well - good players, players like your organization and want to stay.  Take team friendly deals to do so.  You get zero comps . . . and that's not doing your job?

Assume you draft really poorly - players you want gone.  You're forced to sign FA's off the market to cover for it.  You get zero comps.

Comp picks have zero correlation to doing your job or not doing your job as a GM.

[catnip]

Nothing for Olsen ?

[thefuzz]

2 minutes ago, BrianS said:

Completely disagree.  The two have zero correlation.

Assume you draft really well - good players, players like your organization and want to stay.  Take team friendly deals to do so.  You get zero comps . . . and that's not doing your job?

Assume you draft really poorly - players you want gone.  You're forced to sign FA's off the market to cover for it.  You get zero comps.

Comp picks have zero correlation to doing your job or not doing your job as a GM.

If you have a lot of other teams valuing your outgoing players that come available, it absolutely means that your team both drafted well, and coached them up....while continuing to draft well and replace those outgoing (overpriced) free agents.

The top 4 since the 1994 season when the comp picks were started are the Ravens, Cowboys, Packers, and Pats.

3 of the 4 are consistent winners in the NFL, the other was at one point, but has come back to Earth in the last 10 years...and before we start laughing at the Boys being there....they have been to the playoffs exactly 1 less time than us in the last decade.

[thefuzz]

4 minutes ago, catnip said:

Nothing for Olsen ?

We won't get much.

The biggest portion of deciding what comp pick you get is the size of the contract signed by the player after leaving your team, and your choosing to not bring in any additional free agents.

Think Peppers leaving for Chicago, or Norman leaving for WAS., those give you good comp picks, not the lower cost guys that leave.

[jfra78]

1 minute ago, thefuzz said:

We won't get much.

The biggest portion of deciding what comp pick you get is the size of the contract signed by the player after leaving your team, and your choosing to not bring in any additional free agents.

Think Peppers leaving for Chicago, or Norman leaving for WAS., those give you good comp picks, not the lower cost guys that leave.

I think it would figure into next years comp anyway.  With him being cut, im not sure we would get a comp