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Did Rhule lie about Newton?

Mr. Scot

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Mr. Scot

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This discussion has come up again recently in a couple of threads.

My take has been that while he engaged in coachspeak and very flexible "politician" style language, Rhule stopped short of telling an outright lie. And for the record, the same can be said of Tepper.

But I know a lot of folks disagree with that idea. Some branded Rhule as a lying sack of sh-t (Tepper too) and made it quite clear that they wouldn't take anything he said in the future at face value again.

So I'm curious, where do you stand?

Were Rhule and Tepper just doing what football guys do, or was this a violation of the fans' trust?

You tell me.

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Coaching is the very definition of double speak. I don't think he intentionally lied at any point. I think that things just deteriorated faster than anyone thought would happen. Once Cam started the twitter wars it was over as far as Rhule was concerned, imo. 

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15 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

This discussion has come up again recently in a couple of threads.

My take has been that while he engaged in coachspeak and very flexible "politician" style language, Rhule stopped short of telling an outright lie. And for the record, the same can be said of Tepper.

But I know a lot of folks disagree with that idea. Some branded Rhule as a lying sack of sh-t (Tepper too) and made it quite clear that they wouldn't take anything he said in the future at face value again.

So I'm curious, where do you stand?

Were Rhule and Tepper just doing what football guys do, or was this a violation of the fans' trust?

You tell me.

Stop being wishy-washy.

They lied.

Rhule lied. 

Hurney lied.

Tepper hard-core lied.

 You yourself have pointed it out before... teams fugging lie.

Stop equivocating ex post facto.

They fugging lied.  And my boy Cam (along with myself) was a damn fool for ever believing them for a millisecond (Cam from naivety, me from hopefulness cuz at my age I should have known better).

 Rhule is new and is perfectly willing to do whatever he can to impress the boss.

 Hurney is a yes-man.

Tepper is a goddam disease.

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My guess? Rhule is more aware and skillful in coach-speak and politics than we have seen from Fox and Rivera. It was a bad look because of how it was handled by Tepper and Hurney rather than saying that from the beginning and not directly before not being able to trade and then releasing Cam. That was a bad look but I have no idea how much and the dynamics of what really went down and why.

Trust has to be earned and he had a nice draft but has a ton to prove before I trust him. I hope he does amazing and overcomes the issues we have had as a franchise. It's going to take some time and I'm happy to see what he can do. 

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Mr. Scot

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1 minute ago, tiger7_88 said:

Stop being wishy-washy.

They lied.

Rhule lied. 

Hurney lied.

Tepper hard-core lied.

 You yourself have pointed it out before... teams fugging lie.

Stop equivocating ex post facto.

They fugging lied.  And my boy Cam (along with myself) was a damn fool for ever believing them for a millisecond (Cam from naivety, me from hopefulness cuz at my age I should have known better).

 Rhule is new and is perfectly willing to do whatever he can to impress the boss.

 Hurney is a yes-man.

Tepper is a goddam disease.

It occurred to me that you might have a strong opinion on this topic.

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I think they were open to keeping Cam and Rhule was honest about wanting to coach him. I think something happened between negotiations last minute. Either way it’s one or the other. I don’t want to believe or be a fan of a FO that operates that way. But since we don’t know all  the facts we have to accept it’s a possibility they did lie. 
 

But for me in order for them to be that deceptive then Cam would have had to have been a real asshole and from all that we can tell he was a total pro and a great teammate and leader. The way it currently stands he absolutely deserved better.

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