Baldy breaks down Panthers young stars

[Basbear]

Wheres that OG huddler p28 or m28 that could not understand DBs' worth?? Even with rape of him tossing 400LB OGs like a dog with their favorite chew toy. 

[LinvilleGorge]

28 minutes ago, stbugs said:

One of the big issues is that we need to extend the good young players too. If we keep losing a Moton and/or Samuel because we paid Short, Teddy, Weatherly and Okung we’re just going to keep getting stuck in the close cycle. The 2020 draft helped so we need another couple like that.

I agree with you that the secondary is the main spot needing help. If we draft well there it would pay the biggest dividends on D.

Losing Moton just isn't an option IMO. Samuel comes down to market value I think. We can't go crazy paying a #3 WR huge money.

[stbugs]

16 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Losing Moton just isn't an option IMO. Samuel comes down to market value I think. We can't go crazy paying a #3 WR huge money.

I hope so. Pay him LT money. Sucks so much that we pissed away so much cap space on this season when it was obvious we wouldn’t compete. Just with Okung and Short (certainly not 5 year plan guys) that would have been an extra $5.5M a year you could pay Moton for a 5 year extension. Would have been like paying him $10-12M a year, plenty cheap. I mean with the cap we blew we could have been sitting in the same situation we are now except having Moton for no cost for the next 5 years. Would have made Moore and even Samuel extensions no brainers.

[CanadianCat]

I might be alone in this but I'm excited for Christian Miller for next year. If he took this year to get bigger and stronger he could add nice depth to the defensive line

[AU-panther]

1 hour ago, Moo Daeng said:

If Efe and Kerr are playing so well coupled with Burns and Brown you would think they would be more effective as a unit. Obada and Kerr are decent rotational guys but another strong D Lineman is needed.

We are playing good in bits and pieces.  Go to PFF and look at some of the run stop grades of players such as Brown, Efa, and Chinn.  What you are seeing happen on the field is actually showing up in their grades.

We  have some guys making some splash plays and that gives hope for the future, but these little highlight pieces don't give fans the full picture.  A  sack is great, but what about the other 48 snaps.  The snap they took the wrong angle, or the missed gap assignment that allowed a first down run.

 

[TheSpecialJuan]

4 hours ago, TheCasillas said:

Sounds like he is saying "El Torto"  
 

Also, I knew I wasnt going crazy last night when I saw Chinn at MLB on a handful of snaps Lastly, who else here noticed Rhule coaching up Burns and giving him advice heading into that Packers final 3rd down? I am so happy to see what this franchise is putting together. Just have to get to the next level.

Derrick "El Torto" Brown sounds reel good to my ears 

[Jeremy Igo]

5 hours ago, Moo Daeng said:

Shaq doesn't suck. Not being Kuechly or Thomas Davis doesn't mean you suck.

He is paid far more than how good he looks.

[saX man]

I think Carter & Burris are a bit unsung right now.  And Pride has been able to hold his own MUCH better than I thought. 

Saying this not because they're future stars or anything but they actually seem like really good pieces to have. A good supporting cast around Chinn, Burns, Brown needs yo be maintained; they can't all be stars.  We need a min. 1 more guy as a stud on D (and Boston gone), but this defense could be pretty damn good if we get a legit CB1 & MLB and rid ourselves of the scraps.   

[shaqattaq]

22 hours ago, PhillyB said:

idk if i'd call obada a star but he's definitely useful depth 

Either way, I don't think we get him for $750,000 next season. He's played better inside next to Brown than on the outside, nice blend of speed and strength. Good story, good player who's about to sign a life changing (if not massive) contract.

[shaqattaq]

22 hours ago, TheCasillas said:

Sounds like he is saying "El Torto"  

El Torta...The Sandwich!

i like it.

[panthers55]

Shaq is like everyone else on defense. They are learning a new system by a coordinator who is learning as well. Their scheme has been unsound for much of the year. Hard to say that much as long as they are improving which I think they all. For what it is worth, Shaq is the best linebacker we got unless you want to keep Chinn as a linebacker rather than a big safety.

[thefuzz]

20 hours ago, Davidson Deac II said:

His contract isn't as bad as some think. Comparing his contract to other outside linebackers, he is 15th on the list of highest paid linebackers.  Or was, might be higher next year. And we can cut him without a tremendous amount of Dead money after next year. 

Deac, you need to quit saying this.  It's a terrible contract for an average player.

Next season (so far) he's within 3M of Khalil Mack as far as cap hits.

It lists him as ILB, and usually the highest paid ILB's are MLB's which he isn't, but none the less, his cap hit next season is 2nd, only behind Bobby Wagner.

[thefuzz]

19 hours ago, stbugs said:

I hope so. Pay him LT money. Sucks so much that we pissed away so much cap space on this season when it was obvious we wouldn’t compete. Just with Okung and Short (certainly not 5 year plan guys) that would have been an extra $5.5M a year you could pay Moton for a 5 year extension. Would have been like paying him $10-12M a year, plenty cheap. I mean with the cap we blew we could have been sitting in the same situation we are now except having Moton for no cost for the next 5 years. Would have made Moore and even Samuel extensions no brainers.

It was really simple, and we screwed it up.