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DJ Moore graded out as the 24th best WR according to PFF


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It was proven multiple times that Moore was wide open 20-30 yards down the field but Teddy preferred to throw 5-10 yards completions to Robby and Curtis.

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8 minutes ago, Untouchable said:

PFF grades mean nothing, but Adams is on a completely different level compared to any of our WRs.

No he’s not, Adams gets perfectly placed football by the mvp.  DJ had to make circus catches every time Teddy threw deep

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It would be interesting to see what DJ would do if we had a legit franchise QB on the roster. We know he can get deep, but he's also an excellent runner after the catch. He'd be an all-pro candidate if he had Brady, Brees, Rodgers, or Mahomes throwing the ball to him in stride. 

Still that ranking isn't terrible. Each team will usually have 2 WR's on the field at all times...some even use 3 for the majority of the snaps. If we multiply 32 x 2 we get 64. The PFF ranking place DJ well above the top 50% in the league (24/64=37.5%)

I just hope we can get him a QB before he decides it's time to move on to greener pastures.

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43 minutes ago, GoobyPls said:

No he’s not, Adams gets perfectly placed football by the mvp.  DJ had to make circus catches every time Teddy threw deep

To be fair, Adams is much better in the red zone. The red zone is where Moore can stand to improve the most but Teddy is absolutely not the right fit to help him do that. Teddy's limitations as a QB are most evident in the red zone.

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1 hour ago, GoobyPls said:

No he’s not, Adams gets perfectly placed football by the mvp.  DJ had to make circus catches every time Teddy threw deep

Who throws the ball has nothing to do with how PFF grades receivers. It's based on a play by play and individual basis, and graded on if the receiver had a positive play, a negative play, or a neutral play. 

If DJ had to make a dope ass catch because Teddy threw it like crap, he would be rewarded.

Adams was the best WR in the league this year. His route running is Elite and he caught anything thrown near him. 

DJ's routes are OK, and he did fine but Adams was a monster all year.

 

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7 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

Who throws the ball has nothing to do with how PFF grades receivers. It's based on a play by play and individual basis, and graded on if the receiver had a positive play, a negative play, or a neutral play. 

If DJ had to make a dope ass catch because Teddy threw it like crap, he would be rewarded.

Adams was the best WR in the league this year. His route running is Elite and he caught anything thrown near him. 

DJ's routes are OK, and he did fine but Adams was a monster all year.

 

You're not thinking it through.  There were plays there for DJ that Teddy simply couldn't or didn't make.  Those don't figure in to his grade from what I understand.  The grades are based on plays where he was actually the target.

This is why an NFL arm is required to allow DJ to really be his best.  There were numerous examples of plays where DJ was in great position to make a big splash play and Teddy didn't even look at him.  An NFL arm will really make that offense scary because the deep threat is 100% real with our WR's.

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19 minutes ago, BrianS said:

You're not thinking it through.  There were plays there for DJ that Teddy simply couldn't or didn't make.  Those don't figure in to his grade from what I understand.  The grades are based on plays where he was actually the target.

This is why an NFL arm is required to allow DJ to really be his best.  There were numerous examples of plays where DJ was in great position to make a big splash play and Teddy didn't even look at him.  An NFL arm will really make that offense scary because the deep threat is 100% real with our WR's.

You are incorrect. They grade each player and each play on an individual basis regardless if they were the target or not. 

So if DJ made a good release, had great separation, and got open 30 yards downfield, he would have received a positive grade on the play. On that same play, Teddy would have received a negative grade for not throwing it to DJ (If he had the time to make it to that progression).

The fact that he wasn't targeted does not hurt on the above example. HOWEVER, if he were targeted, his grade could go up depending on if he caught it, he made a great catch from a bad throw, he got great YAC, or scored a TD. His grade on the play would most likely stay the same if he just caught it and didn't do anything. His grade on the play would go down if he dropped it, caught it and ran backwards, or he fumbled. 

So, I will say that Teddy not targeting DJ most likely negatively impacted his overall grade, but not necessarily in the way that people think. Teddy didn't make DJ look worse, Teddy just didn't let DJ look as good as he could have. And I think we can all agree on that.

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