What are some examples of QBs who were once considered huge busts, but revived their career on another team?

[X-TEM-X]

Carson Palmer? I mean He did revive his career in Arizona Cardinals if I'm not wrong about this.

[WilmyWood]

2007 Testaverde 

[Mr. Scot]

Brett Favre, Steve Young, Alex Smith, Brad Johnson, Rich Gannon and Jim Plunkett among others.

And Drew Brees wasn't anything special in San Diego. That's why they drafted Philip Rivers.

[SCO96]

Jim Plunkett.

He won the Heisman Trophy at Stanford in 1970. He went to a pretty poor Patriot team and played there from 1970-1975. He was traded to the 49ers and played there for two season (1976-1977).

He ended up with the Raiders in 1978 but saw no significant playing time until Dan Pastorini got hurt in 1980 and Plunkett finished out the season. The Raiders won the Super Bowl that year. They won it again in 1983 against a Redskin team that at the time was the highest scoring team in league history.

His career win mark was only 72-72, but he was 8-2 in playoff games.

PS...Plunkett (1970) and Roger Staubach (1963) are the only two Heisman QB's to win Super bowls. In fact, until Mayfield and Jackson played each other last year on a MNF game, the only other time it had ever happened was a 1977 game between the Cowboys and 49ers.

 

 

 

Edited April 8, 2021 by SCO96

[KillerKat]

11 minutes ago, bobowilson said:

Nearly every QB drafted in the top 3 goes to a terrible team [otherwise the team never would have been in position to have such a high draft pick].

Franchise QBs find a way to elevate disastrous franchises. Cam Newton went to a 1-15 team Hurney had sabotaged and instantly lifted them to contention.

Perhaps Darnold's situation was a little worse than normal, but he showed nothing to indicate he had a future in this league.

You're not factoring in the horrible coaching situations and how young Darnold was when he was thrown to the wolves.

[ForJimmy]

8 minutes ago, bobowilson said:

Nearly every QB drafted in the top 3 goes to a terrible team [otherwise the team never would have been in position to have such a high draft pick].

Franchise QBs find a way to elevate disastrous franchises. Cam Newton went to a 1-15 team Hurney had sabotaged and instantly lifted them to contention.

Perhaps Darnold's situation was a little worse than normal, but he showed nothing to indicate he had a future in this league.

They have 0 first round picks left from the past 8 years. They made Bell look terrible because they have no line and no weapons. I agree, but this team was a disaster led by Adam Gase who is rightfully fired. Pull up his 2019 stats just over 3000 yards, 21 total TDs, 62% completion, 13 INTs all in 13 games played 84.3 rating. Considering his situation that’s not too bad.

[uncfan888]

Think OP would have learned after the poo fest his last terrible thread was 

[PhillyB]

precedents for this - good or bad - narrow substantially when you control for his situation, which is getting traded partway through a rookie deal.

[ForJimmy]

14 minutes ago, Aquemini said:

Teddy makes Dalton look like Dan Fouts lol

Darnold and Dalton are very similar

What is their game is remotely similar? Their hair color? Dalton is a conservative game manager and Darnold’s issues are making bad reads/throws with bad footwork. He can make all the NFL throws, Dalton can’t. That’s what he was 3rd overall vs Dalton being a 2nd rounder. His potential is far greater, unfortunately so is his floor.

[Ivan The Awesome]

You're asking for a very specific situation, but I'll give you an example of a QB with promise that only needed better coaches.

 

Baker Mayfield. Say what you want from him, but he was touted as a franchise guy with the arm strength and talent and swag. Jackson, Greg Williams, Kitchens Basically had no clue how to run an offense or how to use Mayfield. They have a horrendous season in 2018 and 2019 resulting in a top 10 pick again, it's the browns. 

Enter Stefanski, a brilliant offensive mind that helped the Vikes get to the playoffs and really get a lot from that offense, he brings in his own OC an DC. In the draft they get an OT for their line, get him weapons, change the system to fit Mayfield and the story and results speak for themselves. Mayfield had potential and with the change of coaching staff, not necessarily him leaving Cleveland, but changing the scenery in the brass, he went from having a 59.4% Comp percentage to a respectable 62.8%. and he also lowered his turn over ratio, something everyone said of him in 2019. "He's a turn over machine, he throws as many picks as he throws TD's" (sound familiar?) and it was evident with the numbers if you look at the Ratio. 22-21 ratio and it went to 26-8. That's a HUGE improvement. 

 

let's take a look at Darnold. Same situation, different car I suppose.

 

As you can see here, his TD/INT ratio is pretty even. Not good. You can apply the same situation to Darnold. Coaching staff that really didn't help him. He had no real weapons and an Oline that makes our look like studs. Change the scenery, change the coaching staff to ours. Rhule, Brady, Fitterer, they will make sure he gets a fair shot and will more than likely give him every opportunity he may need to succeed. If he doesn't the foundation will be set and ready for the person that WILL succeed. So really there's no were to go but up here. 

 

Panthers have been busy in the off season, they fortified the defense and not a lot of you are talking about this or even acknowledging it. A young QB's best friends are a safety blanket TE or RB, a decent Oline, and a stout Defense. On paper the defense is stout now, and we have CMC and POSSIBLY a TE in Arnold. All that's left is that OT or Oline help. That's it. And of course, the coaching staff and Darnold to put in the effort and work. Believe me, I am absolutely sure Darnold is ecstatic to get to start over and especially with a team that HAS weapons. I am sure the coaching staff is also as excited to have a QB that actually will hit players further than 30 yards and in stride and not throw behind or go off script and then not recognize it. 

 

It's a win win man. 

[Moo Daeng]

9 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Brett Favre, Steve Young, Alex Smith, Brad Johnson, Rich Gannon and Jim Plunkett among others.

And Drew Brees wasn't anything special in San Diego. That's why they drafted Philip Rivers.

Yeah I was going to say Brees but there was the injury issue. Though if he was the Brees we know now hey wouldn't have moved on.

[Catsfan69]

I have not read the thread.

Brett Farve

Jake

Steve Young

Kurt Warner 

Lesser extent

Jim Kelly

Warren Moon 

Best I can do at stoplight. 

[Wes21]

Philip Rivers

[TheProcess]

Some guy named Jake Delhomme