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What are some examples of QBs who were once considered huge busts, but revived their career on another team?


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36 minutes ago, rmoneyg35 said:

I hate how people act like Tannehill was bad in Miami, he wasn’t.

He was regressing when Gase was his Coach that last couple of years..

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1 hour ago, rmoneyg35 said:

I hate how people act like Tannehill was bad in Miami, he wasn’t.

I hate how people act like Tannehill was better his first two years than Darnold. He wasn't. Only in year 3 did he play better than Darnold and he wasn't coached by Gase. He also had a better player at every skilled offensive position in his year 3 and he was 3 years older than Darnold. Darnold wasn't actually "bad" until last year. He actually had the same improvement in year 2 that Tannehill had and finished year 2 well. The Jets then decided to tank in 2020.

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The only one is Steve Young the rest of the QBs everyone is naming were mid round picks or had success on their previous teams.

 

So more than likely Darnold continues to suck 

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4 hours ago, stbugs said:

I hate how people act like Tannehill was better his first two years than Darnold. He wasn't. Only in year 3 did he play better than Darnold and he wasn't coached by Gase. He also had a better player at every skilled offensive position in his year 3 and he was 3 years older than Darnold. Darnold wasn't actually "bad" until last year. He actually had the same improvement in year 2 that Tannehill had and finished year 2 well. The Jets then decided to tank in 2020.

It pains me when people talk bad about Herndon (who'd walk into our TE room and be the man tomorrow) and Berrios (who'd happily fit into our WR corps as a slot guy). 

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22 minutes ago, Sean Payton's Vicodin said:

All I'm getting from this thread are like 6 cases in half a century (Jim Plunkett). That's literally the half of the NFL's existence. Outlook is not so good!

This place loves to hang onto outliers to justify moves. The odds are heavily stacked against Darnold and if you mention this they attack you for being a pessimist when it’s just living in reality. 
 

if people would cut off emotions and try to look at moves from an outside perspective rather then as a hardcore fan of this team they’d be better off instead of setting themselves up for immense disappointment. That’s not to say Darnold without a doubt can’t be good for this team. He could, but history shows the odds are insanely stacked against him.

I dunno how anyone can feel optimistic about this franchise right now. We suck. Last winning season coming in 2017. I think rhule is a good coach but they need to figure out this qb situation quickly because before they know it it’ll be half a decade without a franchise qb and their asses will be on the hot seat.

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35 minutes ago, Sean Payton's Vicodin said:

All I'm getting from this thread are like 6 cases in half a century (Jim Plunkett). That's literally the half of the NFL's existence. Outlook is not so good!

Well, since your ignorance precedes you, how about naming a QB who had a winning record that got cut and went to a crap team and won a Super Bowl.

Bonus points if you can find one that wasn't a top 10 pick.

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33 minutes ago, Sean Payton's Vicodin said:

All I'm getting from this thread are like 6 cases in half a century (Jim Plunkett). That's literally the half of the NFL's existence. Outlook is not so good!

Not True. I can name 9 guys who won Super Bowls with their 2nd teams after failing with the team that drafted them/signed them out of college.

John Unitas, Len Dawson, Jim Plunkett, Doug Williams, Steve YoungBrett Favre, Brad Johnson, Trent Dilfer,  Kurt Warner.

That's just Super Bowl winners. Other guys have moved to other teams and performed well if you look at the entire history of the league.

Sonny Jurgenson was booed out of Philadelphia and traded to a division rival in Washington. By the end of his career he was a Hall of Fame QB.

His successor in Washington, Billy Kilmer, joined the team after several unaccomplished years with Saints early in his career. The Redskins never won a title with him in the 1970's, but they were  perennial playoff team/playoff threat the entire decade and made the Super bowl in 1972 (where the were actually the favorite against the undefeated Miami 14-0 team...can you believe that?)

Rich Gannon won an MVP years with his 3rd team  (the Raiders) years after being drafted. Ron Jaworki won an MVP with his 2nd team in 1980 and took his team to a Super Bowl that year.

We are all familiar with how Brees flourished in New Orleans under Sean Payton. Jake Delhomme took us the playoffs 3 times and almost won a Super Bowl.  Tannehill has flourished with the Titans after getting away from Gase.

You can even throw Doug Flutie (Heisman Winner) into this mix. He was considered a flop when he came to the NFL. He had to leave the league to play in the CFL for years. When he came back to the NFL he was more than serviceable for years with several teams.

No one is saying that Darnold is the ultimate answer to our QB question in Carolina. But, it is "possible" that he can turn his career around. We didn't give up a lot to get him. We're surrounding him with a stronger supporting cast than he had in NY. All of the guys I mentioned above were a lot older than 23 when they hit their stride in the NFL. Let's see how things pan out. If they don't we can get a QB after the 2021 season.

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1 hour ago, SCO96 said:

Not True. I can name 9 guys who won Super Bowls with their 2nd teams after failing with the team that drafted them/signed them out of college.

John Unitas, Len Dawson, Jim Plunkett, Doug Williams, Steve YoungBrett Favre, Brad Johnson, Trent Dilfer,  Kurt Warner.

That's just Super Bowl winners. Other guys have moved to other teams and performed well if you look at the entire history of the league.

Sonny Jurgenson was booed out of Philadelphia and traded to a division rival in Washington. By the end of his career he was a Hall of Fame QB.

His successor in Washington, Billy Kilmer, joined the team after several unaccomplished years with Saints early in his career. The Redskins never won a title with him in the 1970's, but they were  perennial playoff team/playoff threat the entire decade and made the Super bowl in 1972 (where the were actually the favorite against the undefeated Miami 14-0 team...can you believe that?)

Rich Gannon won an MVP years with his 3rd team  (the Raiders) years after being drafted. Ron Jaworki won an MVP with his 2nd team in 1980 and took his team to a Super Bowl that year.

We are all familiar with how Brees flourished in New Orleans under Sean Payton. Jake Delhomme took us the playoffs 3 times and almost won a Super Bowl.  Tannehill has flourished with the Titans after getting away from Gase.

You can even throw Doug Flutie (Heisman Winner) into this mix. He was considered a flop when he came to the NFL. He had to leave the league to play in the CFL for years. When he came back to the NFL he was more than serviceable for years with several teams.

No one is saying that Darnold is the ultimate answer to our QB question in Carolina. But, it is "possible" that he can turn his career around. We didn't give up a lot to get him. We're surrounding him with a stronger supporting cast than he had in NY. All of the guys I mentioned above were a lot older than 23 when they hit their stride in the NFL. Let's see how things pan out. If they don't we can get a QB after the 2021 season.

You know your making his point for him. Your naming guys who played when the majority of today’s players weren’t even alive.

 

Most of the guys you named wouldn’t fit OP criteria. Unitas was like 9th round pick or something like that, Warner wasn’t even drafted. Your just naming names at this point.

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16 hours ago, bobowilson said:

I've seen Ryan Tannehill cited, but he was actually above average in on a terrible Miami team.

In his 2nd, 3rd, and 4th season, he passed for over 4000 yards.   His passer rating was always in the 90s, and while not a top tier QB, you couldn't really call him a bust.  Tannehill went from pretty good to better, so I would never compare him to Darnold's disastrous start.

Drew Brees was also very good in San Diego;  are there any examples we can use to have hope for Darnold?

No there aren’t any. But this board is filled with blind sheep that swallow anything the panthers put in front of them, that’s why they shitted on your post. 

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