Former Jets scout Daniel Kelly on Trey Lance

[Mr. Scot]

11 minutes ago, Tbe said:

Yes, but being able to fit a throw into tight windows is helpful.

Sometimes the only way to make a play is to throw a laser.

And some guys throw a laser when they shouldn't.

[Tbe]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

And some guys throw a laser when they shouldn't.

That doesn’t mean the ability is overrated.

[Mr. Scot]

14 minutes ago, Tbe said:

That doesn’t mean the ability is overrated.

I've heard a lot of professionals talk on the topic, and one of the most common lines is "How often do you really need to be able to throw a 60 yard pass?"

Heck, even Rhule said he wants quarterbacks to have "enough arm strength to make all the throws". That's not exactly looking for a rocket launcher.

I know some folks think the best option is to take a super athletic guy and try to coach him. The reality though is that fails as often as not. I'm always going to look at what a guy's got in his head first, because exercising a guy's body is a lot easier than trying to make them smarter.

Edited April 21, 2021 by Mr. Scot

[Peppers90 NC]

23 minutes ago, SetfreexX said:

Jets drafted Darnold....

Many Huddlers have annointed Darnold as the franchise QB and would pass on Fields for SeWell or Slater who is built like a G, but played T....

This is Huddle logic at it's finest. 

I can understand Sewell, maybe, but is Slater even an elite talent? Or are people so desperate they think drafting the #2 or 3 OT is worth passing on an elite player? To me, if Fields is there, we should take him. But I'd be surprised if he makes it out the top 4. Smith, Chase, Pitts, Parsons maybe even Horn are all elite talents and could be labeled BPA at our spot. 

I support the Darnold trade mainly because I dont think Fields will be there at 8, and the staff doesn't either. I can hard pass on Jones and Lance at 8 for any of those elite talents and continue to build the team and see what Darnold can do.

[MrBubba]

[top dawg]

1 hour ago, SteveSmithTD89 said:

Appolgies, looks like it was a radio interview.

I'm on my phone so we'll see how it goes but here's a link to his radio interview and a screenshot of the tweet.

*Bonus* Now theres a tweet from 5 minutes ago that Zach Wilson is going to be a bust too. 

 

http://www.charlestonsportsradio.com/2021/04/20/the-mauro-midday-show-4-20-21-hour-2/?fbclid=IwAR0cKFnius1Fv4HYntlp0em22vNAt2hdHPwkE7Pb7_dme2q6D0b_U90nYeU

How can anyone take this guy seriously? It's like he's into adversarial parody, or simply loves trolling. 

[Call Me James]

3 hours ago, mccjeff said:

It gets even worse. He writes for SI covering the Lions....

 

[Call Me James]

2 hours ago, SetfreexX said:

Jets drafted Darnold....

Many Huddlers have annointed Darnold as the franchise QB and would pass on Fields for SeWell or Slater who is built like a G, but played T....

This is Huddle logic at it's finest. 

I hear you. Darnold hasn't been good so far in his career and may just be damaged goods at this point. 

I understand the desire of some fans to place unequivocal faith in the teams staff to always make the right decision and hopefully they're right. But in no scenario would I pass on Fields if he is there at 8.

 

 

Edited April 21, 2021 by Call Me James

[Mr. Scot]

2 hours ago, Verge said:

He sounds insane. Yikes.

Referring to himself as "an aspiring NFL GM" in the story wasn't exactly a good look either.

[AceBoogie]

3 hours ago, Khyber53 said:

In the scout's defense, it's not like the former Jets coaches could have done anything with any QB they drafted. Had those guys coached Dan Marino right out of college, he'd have been out of the league within two years. Not sure they wouldn't have ruined either Manning.

 

You’re about to find out then aren’t you. 

[MHS831]

"Tom Brady will be the greatest QB ever to play the game."

-----MHS831, April 22, 2000 to some guy at Walmart.

 

 

 

[vorbis]

it's the easiest thing in the world to say X NFL prospect is going to bust, because chances are, most of them will.

it's also easy as hell to take an unfinished college product and say they are doomed to fail or never develop, because so few players actually do.

it's also easy AF to knock players and predict calamity for their careers when you are not accountable for developing players, and you weren't really accountable for their development during your career as a scout, either.

the harder thing to do is to look at a field of players, a certain percentage of whom are going to succeed in the NFL, and point out the ones who will. or the ones who you think will benefit most from the coaching you and/or your organization have to offer.

[CRA]

2 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

I've heard a lot of professionals talk on the topic, and one of the most common lines is "How often do you really need to be able to throw a 60 yard pass?"

Heck, even Rhule said he wants quarterbacks to have "enough arm strength to make all the throws". That's not exactly looking for a rocket launcher.

I know some folks think the best option is to take a super athletic guy and try to coach him. The reality though is that fails as often as not. I'm always going to look at what a guy's got in his head first, because exercising a guy's body is a lot easier than trying to make them smarter.

I think you can tell more about arm strength from a 20 yard out route than a 50 yard deep ball. 

[DaveThePanther2008]

That was pretty harsh.   I have a feeling Lance is somewhere in between.  

He makes a couple good points about the talent he played against.

He kind of ruined his credibility saying Lawrence will be a bust.  While it is possible, most doubt that is going to happen.