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Offseason post: Rivera literally told the media he wasn't changing anything before Superbowl 50


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1 hour ago, Eazy-E said:

Why are so many of you not understanding that making adjustments doesn’t mean completely changing how the team plays football. 
 

Ron should have watched the tape and known Von Miller would have to be game planned against. Hell, even during the game after the first strip sack TD, he should have made the adjustments to give Remmers some damn help. Instead he changed nothing and continued to let Remmers get abused 1v1 vs Miller the rest of the game.

It’s the same reason we lost to the Falcons. How can you be a head coach and see that poo is not working during a game and not even attempt to make even the slightest adjustments. 
 

Teams have two weeks to prepare for the Superb Owl.  What exactly did our coaching staff do with that time?  We know what they didn’t do.

Our strategy (or stragedy)?  Von Miller, no problem.  Demarcus Ware, no worries.  No need for gadget plays or misdirection, we have Cam.  No need to have somebody help the OL, especially against Miller.  Do they not know who we are?

To your point, the Broncos had the #1 defense by yards allowed and yards per play.  They were fourth in points allowed.  As good as our defense was, statistically they were slightly better in most categories.  That’s not enough to make a difference by itself.  But any coaching staff worth its keep would come up with a few plays to give that defense a pause.  Just enough to knock them on their heels once in a while, if not produce a home run.  But we were much too clever for that.

Our defense basically gave up two FGs in that game.  The other 18 Broncos points were either directly by the Bronco defense (Von Miller’s sack), when our punt coverage stood around like a bunch of government employees and they returned one to the Panther 14 (and kicked a FG), and the late-game fumble that gave them the ball on the Panther 4.  6 points earned, another 18 coming on 4 yards of offense (actually, 3 yards since they lost a yard on the drive after the punt return).

We’ll never really know what wrinkles the Broncos put in on offense to counter our defense because they didn’t need to use them.  The scoreboard just never called for them to run any.  After the first 8-1/2 minutes, they were in a position that their offense simply needed to not lose the game.  That was about all their offense accomplished.  Look at the QB ratings in that game: Cam – 55.4, Manning 56.6.  If you add them together it is a good performance for one QB.

The game was there to be won.  Our coaching staff was just insistent on doing what we had done all year until it worked or the clock wound down to :00.  It probably was not as bad as the Rams taking plays out of the playbook against the Pats, but even that qualifies as an adjustment!

Back in the 90s, a reporter asked Mouse Davis (mastermind of the Run and Shoot) what he did when the Run and Shoot wasn’t working.  How did he adjust when the opposing defense had it firing blanks? His response was, “well, you run and shoot.”  That was our coaching philosophy, too.  Just do the same things and hope they magically work.

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On 6/3/2021 at 9:27 AM, OneBadCat said:

Hard to win when the refs don’t allow you to compete and let your star QB be head hunted all night with no consequence though.

 

I agree Ron still sucks  though 

NFL gave that SUPERB OWL to MANNING!!

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5 minutes ago, ncstatekwi said:

NFL gave that SUPERB OWL to MANNING!!

You can say that, yea the refs let them head hunt Cam during the game, the no catch by Cotchery, but the brunt of the blame lies on MoRon. You don't go up against one of the best Ds in the league and run the same exact thing that was already on film.

McDermott was the only coach on that staff that was worth anything. 

Our D did its job, the ST and O poo the bed, mainly because of coaching.

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On 6/3/2021 at 8:53 AM, pantherclaw said:

We didn't lose that Superbowl because of Ron. 

I agree. We lost the game because of the refs mostly allowing dever to hit cam with no consequence, even when it shiuld have been penalties. Also the refs were probably pressured by higher ups in the league to help peyton ride out into the sunset.  

Hurney is also to blame. Itbwasbhurneys job to build us an offensive line and he failed for years. Honestly i think ron is a great coach and that our fanbase tend to blame him foe things that were more hurneys fault imo.

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At some point, too, what were RR and the staff going to do to make up for the huge discrepancy in talent on our OL vs. DEN DL .. at some point, regardless of scheme, the better player wins out and our OL was just too bad for how good the DEN DL was

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1 minute ago, Peanut Butter said:

At some point, too, what were RR and the staff going to do to make up for the huge discrepancy in talent on our OL vs. DEN DL .. at some point, regardless of scheme, the better player wins out and our OL was just too bad for how good the DEN DL was

We could have won that game. Broncos attacked cam with cheap/illegal shots and late hits one after another after another after another while the refs looked the other way. 

They had to do this because the panthers would have won. Their defense was good, but Cam was better. They had to take him out by whatever means was necessary.

That said there were things that could have been done and adjustments made to offer Can more protection. They could have known that the Broncos ere going to spend time studying everything we do knowing they we rarely deviated from what we did. They didn't have to spy on us like the Patriots did because we didn't do anything differently heading into the game. 

We acted like it was just another rather than throwing everything we had into the biggest game if all of their careers. They weren't ready for it. That moment was too big for them because Rivera didn't get them ready. His lack of leadership and apathy towards change cost them a chance to win.

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honestly if you execute on offense you can almost tell the other team whats going to happen.

 

there was a high school team in NC that had 7 plays in their playbook and won state several times and were constantly in the playoffs.

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22 hours ago, rayzor said:

We needed a reset. We needed a leader to get us right mentally. We couldn't depend on Cam because he had his own battle to fight trying to dodge defensive players taking late and dirty hits without consequence. They needed a HC to help them get things right. It wouldn't have taken much, but the job was too much for him.

And this, Panthers fans, is what should haunt your every fan nightmare.  A team with all the markings of a champion undone by the feckless ineptitude and hubris of 1 man. 

That man has his ring, I guess ours didn't matter enough.

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He’s not entirely wrong. Why change what made us the best team in football? However, they should have had contingency plans and they should have had looks that they had been practicing all season and not shown in games yet. Good coaches can make adjustments when things aren’t working.

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17 hours ago, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

I'm not reading this thread buy holy hell you guys love to live in the past and torture yourselves.

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Well you aren't familiar with being a fan of an NFL franchise, so there isn't a way that you could understand it.

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16 hours ago, rayzor said:

We could have won that game. Broncos attacked cam with cheap/illegal shots and late hits one after another after another after another while the refs looked the other way. 

They had to do this because the panthers would have won. Their defense was good, but Cam was better. They had to take him out by whatever means was necessary.

That said there were things that could have been done and adjustments made to offer Can more protection. They could have known that the Broncos ere going to spend time studying everything we do knowing they we rarely deviated from what we did. They didn't have to spy on us like the Patriots did because we didn't do anything differently heading into the game. 

We acted like it was just another rather than throwing everything we had into the biggest game if all of their careers. They weren't ready for it. That moment was too big for them because Rivera didn't get them ready. His lack of leadership and apathy towards change cost them a chance to win.

There is no way you could convince me that wasn't the worst team we had faced all playoffs. The difference was they had a coaching staff that was far better and the refs decided to swallow their whistles when it came to the Broncos. 

 

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