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Carolina Panthers are STILL interested in Deshaun Watson


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9 hours ago, Snake said:

But what exactly is the crime? I'm guessing solicitation of prostitution but that's all I can think of. Still each count carries max 5 years so he could serve time for it.

You are correct at this point.  I was reading where criminal charges “could” be brought in the future but at this point there are none pending apparently.

@top dawg comments about the FBI looking at possible extortion by the plaintiffs is true as well from what I have read

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10 hours ago, Snake said:

But what exactly is the crime? I'm guessing solicitation of prostitution but that's all I can think of. Still each count carries max 5 years so he could serve time for it.

Harvey Weinstein could spend rest of life in prison after rape conviction -  Los Angeles Times

Conviction(s): 1 count of third-degree rape, 1 count of criminal sexual assault in the first degree
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1 hour ago, La Pantera said:

Sex trafficking will probably be the worst of the charges. Because he was bringing in girls from other states.

But can they prove that? Normally they catch people with sting operations to get sex trafficking. Watson isn't going to have a two bit lawyer either. Their going to be the best.

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3 minutes ago, cookinbrak said:

Harvey Weinstein could spend rest of life in prison after rape conviction -  Los Angeles Times

Conviction(s): 1 count of third-degree rape, 1 count of criminal sexual assault in the first degree

From what I have gathered Watson never raped anyone or sexually assaulted anyone. He exposed himself and asked for sex.

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8 minutes ago, Snake said:

From what I have gathered Watson never raped anyone or sexually assaulted anyone. He exposed himself and asked for sex.

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Although the 22 suits filed to date share many similarities, only two include claims of sexual assault: Watson was said in both cases to have pressured women to perform oral sex during massages and was accused in one of also having grabbed a woman’s buttocks and vagina. The civil suits allege that Watson engaged in a pattern of lewd behavior with women hired to provide personal services, coercing them to touch him in a sexual manner, exposing himself to women he had hired for massages, or moving his body in ways that forced them to touch his penis. The incidents cited in the suits were said to have occurred from March 2020 to March 2021.

 

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6 minutes ago, Snake said:

But can they prove that? Normally they catch people with sting operations to get sex trafficking. Watson isn't going to have a two bit lawyer either. Their going to be the best.

I believe he purchased plane tickets to have "massage therapist" flown in. If there is a paper trail and he brought those women in from out of state for the purpose of sex. He could be charged in trafficking. Will he...? Who knows.

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7 minutes ago, La Pantera said:

I believe he purchased plane tickets to have "massage therapist" flown in. If there is a paper trail and he brought those women in from out of state for the purpose of sex. He could be charged in trafficking. Will he...? Who knows.

Clearly he should have used an alias when purchasing those tickets. I hear that currently no one is using Ron Mexico so there is that.

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1 hour ago, Snake said:

I got that idea because you could actually prove that in court. A DA isn't going to pick up a case on he said she said and you believe the woman. I'm pretty sure you could convict that he was trying to solicit sex. Yes there are other claims but like I said solicitation is a federal crime. 

Solicitation is a very broad word and the details determine if it’s federal or not. So far this is civil so the DA doesn’t matter. We absolutely do not know what there is enough evidence of to take to court or not, including the accusations aside from solicitation. What you see in the media is probably 1/100 of all the details. This is an ongoing pending civil case/investigation, the public are not privy to most details.
 

And a DA certainly will take a case that may or may not have enough evidence based on the situation. I’ve been in numerous cases of he said she said domestic violence cases brought to court by the DA. Hell, more than one where the victim no longer wanted to proceed, and when that happens it’s extremely unlikely anything in court will either. Determining credibility of evidence is largely a responsibility of the court/judge, not the DA.

 

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I wanted Watson BAD. I would LOVE to have a young MVP caliber QB again. But... this is just way too messy. Without some VERY good evidence that this is all a sham (which seems like extremely slim odds), I think I'd steer clear of this. I want to win. But not if it means selling our soul to acquire a literal sexual predator.

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