The day after, I can't help but be upset with Snow...

[The Natural]

I'm of the opinion that all of the injuries on that side of the ball finally caught up to us. It's hard to stop a top offense when missing several key contributors. The refs certainly didn't do us any favors either. If they don't screw us out of that fumble recovery and we don't whiff on sack opportunities we're singing a different tune today.

[Pejorative Miscreant]

We lost. Fire ever body. 

[top dawg]

We got beat in the trenches on both sides of the ball. The surprise was our defense got manhandled. I think it was a combination of losing Horn, and Snow not having any--much less, the same--trust in Melvin and Bouye (while CJ gets up to speed), so he didn't make the necessary adjustments to stop the run. It was chicken poo defense against a good line (that was holding).  

Well, we're not there yet, but we're moving in the right direction. If we meet them again, we may get a different outcome with Henderson and Bouye more seasoned within our system (and CMC back...and maybe some max protect for Darnold).

[onmyown]

May not be a popular opinion, but as good as the defense has been and as much resources thrown at it already,  I still think it’s missing some pieces, namely run stuffers and another DT. I also think they’re wasting Chinn, so a safety as well.

A fast, blitzing team will get burned if there is no other DT like Brown who will just get doubled, to stop the run.

But ultimately they have an oline, similar to olines that make the post season. It is otherworldly rare that any oline past the wildcards are ranked below average and play any different than Dallas. If this team wants a shot you have to be able to compete against a good oline.

[Davidson Deac II]

26 minutes ago, Snake said:

Dallas also underperforms too and has a potato as a head coach. We lost to a mediocre team. Let's not try and save face. 

I completely disagree.  Dallas has one of the most balanced and best offenses in the league.  I thought they would put up at least 30 against us, and they went slightly higher than.  Dallas's struggles are on defense.  Their run defense was not good yesterday and Chuba had a relatively good day, but we didn't or couldn't take full advantage of it as we got to far behind.  Their pass defense is certainly improved over last year, but our protection/pass blocking is not good.  

[raleigh-panther]

CMC and the Panthers dependence on him affects every part of the Panthers team

he makes the oline look good

drives go deeper 

the defense isn’t in the field that long 

everything gets better 

as long as he is not playing, this is the result  yes losing Horn hurt but the panthers go through mccafrey and until that gets fixed or they find someone less injury prone, nothing will change 

cam Erving, totally wrong 

 

[Jon Snow]

22 minutes ago, Pejorative Miscreant said:

We lost. Fire ever body. 

Exactly.  From what little of the game I caught, on purpose for health reasons, I would like to know a few things.

1. Dallas repeatedly caught them in the wrong personnel by going to hurry up.  I want to know the percentage of snaps per defensive player. 

2. I would be curious to see the personnel on defense during their scoring drives.

Me thinks the old man got caught with his pants down.

 

Edited October 4, 2021 by Jon Snow

[cardiackat88.]

1 hour ago, 4Corners said:

Somebody said he had been living in his office at the stadium after the Texans game. 10 days of game planning. WTF was he doing? 

Maybe overthinking it all to hell, like the Waterboy “he fakes, no he pretends to fake, no he fakes the fake!”

[trueblade]

9 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

1. Dallas repeatedly caught them in the wrong personnel by going to hurry up.  I want to know the percentage of snaps per defensive player.

Player	Defensive Snaps	Special Teams Snaps
Jeremy Chinn	61 (100%)	7 (24%)
Brian Burns	59 (97%)	8 (28%)
Donte Jackson	59 (97%)	7 (24%)
Shaq Thompson	57 (93%)	1 (3%)
A.J. Bouye	49 (80%)
Sean Chandler	48 (79%)	20 (69%)
Haason Reddick	47 (77%)	1 (3%)
Derrick Brown	45 (74%)	7 (24%)
DaQuan Jones	43 (70%)	7 (24%)
Morgan Fox	41 (67%)	7 (24%)
Jermaine Carter	40 (66%)	10 (34%)
Sam Franklin	27 (44%)	12 (41%)
Rashaan Melvin	21 (34%)	6 (21%)
CJ Henderson	18 (30%)	1 (3%)
Bravvion Roy	14 (23%)
Marquis Haynes	11 (18%)	1 (3%)
Keith Taylor	10 (16%)	16 (55%)
Daviyon Nixon	8 (13%)
Frankie Luvu	6 (10%)	21 (72%)
Darryl Johnson	5 (8%)	9 (31%)
Julian Stanford	2 (3%)	21 (72%)

[Jon Snow]

4 minutes ago, trueblade said:

Player	Defensive Snaps	Special Teams Snaps
Jeremy Chinn	61 (100%)	7 (24%)
Brian Burns	59 (97%)	8 (28%)
Donte Jackson	59 (97%)	7 (24%)
Shaq Thompson	57 (93%)	1 (3%)
A.J. Bouye	49 (80%)
Sean Chandler	48 (79%)	20 (69%)
Haason Reddick	47 (77%)	1 (3%)
Derrick Brown	45 (74%)	7 (24%)
DaQuan Jones	43 (70%)	7 (24%)
Morgan Fox	41 (67%)	7 (24%)
Jermaine Carter	40 (66%)	10 (34%)
Sam Franklin	27 (44%)	12 (41%)
Rashaan Melvin	21 (34%)	6 (21%)
CJ Henderson	18 (30%)	1 (3%)
Bravvion Roy	14 (23%)
Marquis Haynes	11 (18%)	1 (3%)
Keith Taylor	10 (16%)	16 (55%)
Daviyon Nixon	8 (13%)
Frankie Luvu	6 (10%)	21 (72%)
Darryl Johnson	5 (8%)	9 (31%)
Julian Stanford	2 (3%)	21 (72%)

I know this is a dumb question but who is Sean Chandler?

[trueblade]

5 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

I know this is a dumb question but who is Sean Chandler?

Apparently the starting safety next to Chinn. 

UDFA with the Giants in 18. On and off the Giants practice squad then on and off our practice squad last year.

But he went to Temple. 

[Harbingers]

6 minutes ago, trueblade said:

Apparently the starting safety next to Chinn. 

UDFA with the Giants in 18. On and off the Giants practice squad then on and off our practice squad last year.

But he went to Temple. 

Well that’s explains everything. 

[Harbingers]

33 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Exactly.  From what little of the game I caught, on purpose for health reasons, I would like to know a few things.

1. Dallas repeatedly caught them in the wrong personnel by going to hurry up.  I want to know the percentage of snaps per defensive player. 

2. I would be curious to see the personnel on defense during their scoring drives.

Me thinks the old man got caught with his pants down.

 

More like he got caught glued to the shitter. We hardly did anything that we succeeded at some much to begin with. Over simplified zone game plan, I know Horn wasn’t in but that shouldn’t merit changing the defensive scheme completely. No spy on Dak. No spy on Zeke. No stacked looks. Hardly any TFL. Our defense through three was never about gap protection, it was about swarm and confuse and that showed in a big way yesterday. 

Edited October 4, 2021 by Harbingers

[Panther'sBigD]

14 minutes ago, trueblade said:

Apparently the starting safety next to Chinn. 

UDFA with the Giants in 18. On and off the Giants practice squad then on and off our practice squad last year.

But he went to Temple. 

I think he's done pretty well for a UDFA stopgap.