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Official Patriots at Panthers GameDay Thread


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49 minutes ago, CPantherKing said:

You said the same thing about Bridgewater

Yes. Teddy is Teddy.  He was before Carolina.  In Carolina.  And now in Denver.   

the deep ball he made today? He did the same thing on a rare play in Carolina or NO or Minny.   It was a calculated risk.  And it wasn’t risky.  He will take those.  Worst case scenario is an incomplete because he over throws a one on one to the sideline 

You can win an average amount of games with Teddy as long as you accept Teddy’s role.  Teddy was always better QB than Sam.  It’s why we were in every game late.    It’s was discussed at length this off-season. 
 

and we would have winning record with Teddy.  That doesn’t make Teddy good.  Makes him competent.  But you are going to do anything with that matters or be legit contenders with him….just.be middle of the road.  

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32 minutes ago, ImaginaryKev said:

Or a rookie QB behind an improved line which is totally possible that you left out for some reason bc you have no imagination

Omg 

No, wat I don't have is an emotional or financial investment in this team, which is a painfully obvious commonality with you guys.

And, "improved" is a relative term and given the current O-line, an improvement doesn't amount to squat.

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14 minutes ago, ImaginaryKev said:

Imagine being SCARED to replace that guy bc you're scared to spend money in free agency and wanna draft a C in the top ten

Rhule is scared to replace/bench him because he traded 3 drafts picks and guaranteed him $18 million next before he even took a practice rep. Benching Darnold would be admitting to Tepper that he fuged up and has no idea how to evaluate or coach in the NFL. If he doesn't then fans are gonna start booing them during games or just not showing up at all. Either way I think Rhule is fuged

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8 minutes ago, Anybodyhome said:

Darnold has won more games this season than either of those 2 combined with Carolina.

The version of Darnold after Dallas has been the worst multi game stretch for a panther QB period. Even that Dallas game was rough as hell and a lot of garbage time stats. So really he's been bad for over a month now. Soft schedule early with really green teams helped.

 

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5 minutes ago, chbright said:

The version of Darnold after Dallas has been the worst multi game stretch for a panther QB period. Even that Dallas game was rough as hell and a lot of garbage time stats. So really he's been bad for over a month now. Soft schedule early with really green teams helped.

 

Then there was the Chris Weinke season that started with an unbelievable win in Minnesota, followed by 15 straight losses.

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18 minutes ago, chbright said:

The version of Darnold after Dallas has been the worst multi game stretch for a panther QB period. Even that Dallas game was rough as hell and a lot of garbage time stats. So really he's been bad for over a month now. Soft schedule early with really green teams helped.

 

And once teams got tape on us and figured us out, we can't seem to adjust.   See Panthers circa 2020 for proof.

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