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Does Cam get a long term deal if he plays well the rest of the season?


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2 hours ago, Jaxel said:

No, maybe another 1 year deal to mentor the rookie we take in the draft, but I can't foresee a long term deal regardless 

Nah, if Cam is Cam the rest of this season they’re absolutely going to ink him to a 3 or 4 year deal. I don’t see us drafting a QB high in this next draft of Cam shows he’s still a franchise QB. That will go a long way to us being able to fix the o line and really make a run in the NFC over the next few years. Defense is already there. QB and o line are the only glaring weaknesses on this team. If Cam fixes the QB problem, we go all in on o line in the draft and free agency and do the damn thing. 

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1 hour ago, davos said:

I'd take Ridder to have behind Cam.  But if he plays well, it will allow us to focus in the trenches with that mid to late first rounder.  Because we could be that 6th or 7th seed.  Saints, Falcons, Vikings, aren't really secured.  

Riddler got beat out by a freshman at OU. I think I’m good on that one. 

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8 minutes ago, SizzleBuzz said:

I agree it was absolutely the correct path to take but Cam wasn't interested and all the nut-huggers were saying it was disrespectful to expect Cam to play out his deal.

He wanted an extension and the way he went about it blew up in his face...

It blew up in our face also because we received zero compensation for him walking and ended up signing Teddy for a decent sized contract that we are still paying for.

Both sides made mistakes and some of it was understandable for both sides.  Here is my guess:

Cam was in the last year of his deal and wanted an extension.  Nothing wrong with that and I would expect the same if I was Cam.

Cam probably wanted a decent size extension based on his body of work the previous 8 yeas.  Here again, nothing wrong with that.

The team on the other hand didn't want to commit long term especially based on recent injury history.  Can't really blame the team for that. 

My guess is Cam (and when i say Cam I'm referring to him or his advisors) made it clear he didn't want to play on  a one year deal.  Would Rodgers?  Or Wilson?  Even if they were hurt the year before.  Here again I can't blame Cam for tanking this stance, I would have done the same.

The team probably decided they didn't' want to deal with the drama and said go look for a trade.  In the meantime they signed Teddy.  To me this is where the front office made a tactical mistake.  At that point you can't keep Cam and the rest of the league knew it.  You basically just devalued your own asset.

What the team should have done was tell Cam no to the extension, and for Cam to look for a trade, and if he found a fair value one for the team they would consider trading him.  Don't sign Teddy and just slow play the situation. 

We should have started the season with Cam, or traded him for assets and started the season with Grier.

Did Cam ultimately end up costing himself money, yes, but if you don't sign Teddy and slow play it Cam probably sees that he isn't getting any better deals anywhere else and he plays out his last year.

Honestly its blown up in the teams face also.  Look at the cap and draft picks that we have wasted on the QB spot since that point.

 

 

 

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For whatever reason the rest of the league isn't knocking down the door to sign Cam.

If he plays well you sign him to a moderate 2-3 deal while you draft a rookie this year or next to replace him down the road.

We don't need 2015 Cam, NE Cam would probably actually win a good many games with this defense.

 

 

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7 minutes ago, AU-panther said:

For whatever reason the rest of the league isn't knocking down the door to sign Cam.

If he plays well you sign him to a moderate 2-3 deal while you draft a rookie this year or next to replace him down the road.

We don't need 2015 Cam, NE Cam would probably actually win a good many games with this defense.

 

 

Cam won 7 last year with NE....and that roster was comically bad.  It was a weak roster that was then hammered by COVID holdouts on top of that. 

I mean, NE Cam would have had this version of the Panthers at the top of the NFC if he was here from the jump.   It's still amazing the offense was bad enough to lose some of those giftwrapped games the D gave us. 

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37 minutes ago, onmyown said:

you cannot fix the 29th ranked oline in one season with half your top picks missing 

it just doesn’t work like that

this oline is already horrendous and they don’t even have Paradis next year, so despite literally dangerous guard play, a C is an absolute must 

this is the hole that was dug and will take several years to address. honestly it’s really doing cam a disservice.

Gotta disagree there

OLine is about how the unit works as a whole and the chemistry they have with picking up blitzes etc. making splash FA signings and using early draft picks doesnt guarantee anything. We went dumpster diving in 2015 and had a great unit all the way up until the Super Bowl

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1 hour ago, KillaCamNewton said:

Gotta disagree there

OLine is about how the unit works as a whole and the chemistry they have with picking up blitzes etc. making splash FA signings and using early draft picks doesnt guarantee anything. We went dumpster diving in 2015 and had a great unit all the way up until the Super Bowl

honestly it doesn’t make sense to me to make an argument based on the exceptions and not the rule so not sure what to say

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